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View Poll Results: One of the poster mentioned that majority are as follows:

Rafans support/like Djokovic 15 26.79%
Fedfans support/like Murray 18 32.14%
Nolefans support/like Murray 12 21.43%
Murray fans support/like Federer 11 19.64%
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Old 10-04-2012, 09:26 AM   #31
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Gloryhunters. Most (not all, but most) people who support two (or more) of the current top 4 players are gloryhunters, except maybe if one of them is Murray.
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Gloryhunters. Most (not all, but most) people who support two (or more) of the current top 4 players are gloryhunters, except maybe if one of them is Murray.
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Gloryhunters. Most (not all, but most) people who support two (or more) of the current top 4 players are gloryhunters, except maybe if one of them is Murray.
Well, the thing is, they are the best players on tour right now and if you enjoy great Tennis you're probably gonna end up rooting for one of them. I know you don't agree on the 'great Tennis' part.

Are nationalist or personality reasons really better reasons for liking a Tennis player than talent/style/quality?
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Well, the thing is, they are the best players on tour right now and if you enjoy great Tennis you're probably gonna end up rooting for one of them. I know you don't agree on the 'great Tennis' part.

Are nationalist or personality reasons really better reasons for liking a Tennis player than talent/style/quality?
Yes, they are the best players right not and there's nothing wrong with rooting for one of them, well on the contrary. When you root for two or more of them though, chances are you're a gloryhunter, especially if it's two of Federer, Nadal and Djokovic. Not everyone of course, I'm sure some people have legitimate non gloryhunting reasons to support two of them, but I'm sure that most people who do so only do it for the glory.

You can like a tennis player for any reason. However, when the reason behind your support is that said player(s) is winning Grand Slams it is gloryhunting..
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Even if so, I don't see anything wrong with that. Most people like winning, so it's just easier to get behind players who are successful, as they are also the ones who are on TV. I think whatever works for you is fine, especially if you can get some sort of joy out of it.

That wasn't the question. I asked if those reasons are better than glory hunting as they also have nothing to do with Tennis as a sport.
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Nadal
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Even if so, I don't see anything wrong with that. Most people like winning, so it's just easier to get behind players who are successful, as they are also the ones who are on TV. I think whatever works for you is fine, especially if you can get some sort of joy out of it.

That wasn't the question. I asked if those reasons are better than glory hunting as they also have nothing to do with Tennis as a sport.
That's not genuine support though, as those fans don't care about 'their' player or their tennis, but only the glory they represent.

Talent/style/quality are better reasons to support a tennis player than personality/nationality, but all those are legitimate reasons, far better reasons than supporting a player just because he wins big tournaments. Unless your implication is that the current top 4 are the four most talented players on tour with the four most appealing styles of play, which is at best a very controversial claim and imo very wrong.

I have serious doubts that most people's reasons for supporting two of Federer, Nadal and Djokovic are because of their talent let alone style.
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I like Djokovic the most from the other guys, but he is Rafa's biggest threat so most of the time I want him to lose because of that. Federer I can't stand, mainly because of the tards on here but due to some other facts as well. Murray is just irrelevant.
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Federer
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Don't really care that much about Murray/Djokovic and dislike Nadal.

Generally, I've noticed...

Nole and Rafatards tend to like their other player the 2nd most (and hate Federer)
Muzzatards tend to like Fed the most. Fed well...they don't appear to like their opponents that much at all.
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I like Djokovic the most from the other guys, but he is Rafa's biggest threat so most of the time I want him to lose because of that. Federer I can't stand, mainly because of the tards on here but due to some other facts as well. Murray is just irrelevant.
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I support none of them and they are 1/2/3/4 in my most disliked players list.
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That's not genuine support though, as those fans don't care about 'their' player or their tennis, but only the glory they represent.

Talent/style/quality are better reasons to support a tennis player than personality/nationality, but all those are legitimate reasons, far better reasons than supporting a player just because he wins big tournaments. Unless your implication is that the current top 4 are the four most talented players on tour with the four most appealing styles of play, which is at best a very controversial claim and imo very wrong.

I have serious doubts that most people's reasons for supporting two of Federer, Nadal and Djokovic are because of their talent let alone style.
Who cares about the reason if it has nothing to do with Tennis? Patriotism, sympathy, and/or superficiality certainly don't make you any more of a Tennis fan, than glory hunting.
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I am a federer fan. Whenever federer is out of the tournament, i always find myself rooting for Murray. This is most probably because Murray is nowhere close to any record whatsoever.
Every nadal win means that he is closer to getting Roger's record (talking about GSs here)..
And i just can't stand nole fans..especially after 2011.
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There have been several polls on that, you can use the "advanced search" function.

The trends were not that clear : there are all kinds of tastes actually.

Anyway, people who just spend time lurking the forum won't have a proper opinion as it's often the same ones who talk a lot (myself included) and give the impression that they are numerous and represent a lot of people , which is just wrong. Also the ones who spend a lot of time on this forum are often trolls and also often are full of themselves. You will have a bad opinion of every fanbase if you just read what these posters post. I've often read this wrong interpretation on this forum that the most talkative posters on MTF truly represent their fanbase, which is 100% (well 99%) wrong.

People in real life are very different, and you can already see that in other forums.

Fedfans usually don't like Nadal, that's the only very obvious trend, for various reasons of course there's the "losing" factor, but not only Fed and Nadal are opposite in many aspects. Usually Nadalfans think that Fedfans just hate Nadal because Fed loses to him, because that's the most acceptable opinion for them : it's hard for them to imagine that one can't like Nadal for other reasons.

Among Nadalfans, it's not visible on this forum but many ones like Fed or at least respect him at least from what I read on multiple forums. I was nicely surprised by that. I guess defeating him helped, the fact that Nadal praised Fed a lot also helped ... and of course that there are many reasons to respect Fed and it's visible in the whole tennis community . Also I was pleasantly surprised that many Nadalfans really are humble people, although on this forum you will not realize that at all

I have the impression that more Djokofans don't like Fed than Nadalfans dislike Fed, anyway I've often seen they had a strange and peculiar relationship to Fed, very much concerned about him even when Nadal clearly was Djokovic's main opponent. I think Tignor was on something when he spoke of a "Fedipal" complex about Djokovic, remember "the king is dead, long live the king" ?

About Djokofans disliking Fed, there also seems to be a specific "nationality" factor : I think the Serbian media played a lot on that competition with Fed, and also some liked to give a bad opinion about Fed for that reason.

Of course, disliking Fed, or, specifically on this forum, disliking visible Fedfans, has also been a reason to cheer for Djokovic or for Nadal for some, at different periods though. Also some who were disappointed by Fed when he declined also went on to cheer for Djokovic, as he's the one who's most "offensive/complete" out of the other top-4, or at least out of the top-3 because these ones were rather gloryhunters, and it was hard for them to cheer for the slamless Murray

Besides, specifically on this forum, an artificial "association of interests" has been made between Nadal and Djokofans, because of the high number of Fedfans. I've not seen it anywhere else.

Personally Fed is my favorite, and I'm allergic to Nadal, between Djokovic and Murray it depends, I prefer Djokovic's attitude and desire to create more, also his personality, but I admire Murray's talent, esp. since I saw him live. Also I prefer Fed-Murray's match-up than Fed-Djoko's, more interesting matches imo.
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