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Old 10-04-2012, 02:40 AM   #31
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Rodmug should have acquired a proper ground game, if he hit more ground stroke winners than Wozniacki in an average match, maybe he would have won more than the slam USTA gifted to him. Being Noserer's bitch on such an epic scale is downright hilarious and pathetic. Such titan of the game fit quite snugly in into Noserer's impressive era alongside Hewitt and Nalbandian
The same Roddick that was even up with Del Potro for 2 sets? Washed up Roddick vs. Prime Potro?

The same washed up Hewitt that took a set from Djoker at both the AO and Olympics?

The same Nalbandian who can beat anyone at any time?

I know you have an agenda to spew, but come on. The more you discredit Federer, the more you are indirectly discrediting Nadal.
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The same Roddick that was even up with Del Potro for 2 sets? Washed up Roddick vs. Prime Potro?

The same washed up Hewitt that took a set from Djoker at both the AO and Olympics?

The same Nalbandian who can beat anyone at any time?

I know you have an agenda to spew, but come on. The more you discredit Federer, the more you are indirectly discrediting Nadal.
First of all Del Potro is a joke player, I consider him ballbashing version of Simon, even then who did he beat for his fluke slam title...? Yeah...

Who cares about "taking set from player X", btw? They didn't win, end of story. Guys like Hewitt got DOUBLE BAGELED IN A SLAM FINAL, not even WTA was ever this bad, ffs.

Nalbandian was a failure who never achieved anything in slams apart from that final where he got dismantled by Hewitt (strong era).

I am not discrediting Nadal. Not at all. He was a baby during that time and still the only real threat to Noserer while everyone else bent down nice and low. He was only great on clay. From 2008-2010 he won 6 slams + OG and countless titles + 2 YE #1 finishes. When Djoker/Nadal are at their best Noserer can barely win a slam once every 2 years. When he had to face Hewitt, Roddick and guys like Gonzalez who shit their pants, he obviously dominated, which was easy to see why.
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First of all Del Potro is a joke player, I consider him ballbashing version of Simon, even then who did he beat for his fluke slam title...? Yeah...

Who cares about "taking set from player X", btw? They didn't win, end of story. Guys like Hewitt got DOUBLE BAGELED IN A SLAM FINAL, not even WTA was ever this bad, ffs.

Nalbandian was a failure who never achieved anything in slams apart from that final where he got dismantled by Hewitt (strong era).

I am not discrediting Nadal. Not at all. He was a baby during that time and still the only real threat to Noserer while everyone else bent down nice and low. He was only great on clay. From 2008-2010 he won 6 slams + OG and countless titles + 2 YE #1 finishes. When Djoker/Nadal are at their best Noserer can barely win a slam once every 2 years. When he had to face Hewitt, Roddick and guys like Gonzalez who shit their pants, he obviously dominated, which was easy to see why.
jajajajaja what a joke!!!

nadal only could won outside clay when federer was past his peak and pre-peak djokovic in 2011 , his took advantage of that empy beetwen peak federer and djokovic.

nadal won the most joke us open in tennis history and his best year was because that 2010 was really patetic in terms of competition , the best players in very low levels or injury , he faced the powerfuls youznhy , verdasco , ferrer , berdych , melzer and more mugs.

he can`t won outside clay since 2010 , the worst year in tennis of the last years.


he is the only man of lost many slam finals with the same guy of all history , a titan really......

even in clay he never faced great competition even gaudio and coria were out and fed-nole are fast court specialist , not clay.
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Topspinmoron will probably say now that h2h is more important than slam titles. NID.
Never said anything like that, clown.

But H2H against his biggest rival, puts his entire tennis career into context. Noserer never had real competition and people trying to claim that 2003-2005 when mugs like Phillipousis/Johannson made slam finals, Grandpa Agassi still a slam threat and 2006-2007 (baby Nadal/Djoker not in prime, Blake/Baldenko/Robredo top 5 ) were strong eras are delusional.

The new generation of atheletes who can engage in brutal 50 stroke rallies without making an unforced error. Guys who can retrieve impossible shots and hit with 5000 rpm forehands. They are the future, not the ballerina archaic style of tennis Noserer used to succeed in weak era where he would face monsters like Gasquet and Grosjean in slam semis.
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nalbandian was the same player that after come of a great injury was capable to push nadal to the limits and nadal needed that nalbandian lost his physicall to won......a very bad nalbandian!!! or the same gonzo that humilliates nadal in australia even ljubicic was capable to defeat nadull past his peak and in slow hardcourts
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Grosjean was awesome.
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Never said anything like that, clown.

But H2H against his biggest rival, puts his entire tennis career into context. Noserer never had real competition and people trying to claim that 2003-2005 when mugs like Phillipousis/Johannson made slam finals, Grandpa Agassi still a slam threat and 2006-2007 (baby Nadal/Djoker not in prime, Blake/Baldenko/Robredo top 5 ) were strong eras are delusional.

The new generation of atheletes who can engage in brutal 50 stroke rallies without making an unforced error. Guys who can retrieve impossible shots and hit with 5000 rpm forehands. They are the future, not the ballerina archaic style of tennis Noserer used to succeed in weak era where he would face monsters like Gasquet and Grosjean in slam semis.
nadal never had real conmpetition in clay , that is the true.

and in hardcourts when younger and peak opponent appears , he was humilliated
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He does Rafa no favours. Talked far too much as usual at a press conference in Argentina and also said this gem. It's nothing new - Nadal has said the same thing i.e., when Roger gets into a rhythm and plays very fast then the match can go very quickly. So obviously it suits Nadal for the game to be slower but Toni does Rafa a disservice by focusing on that rather than his nephew's game.

He even said, Roger v Rafa is like a Ferrari facing a BMW - you need to take the Ferrari down a winding road. [All via @BATennis]
You could look at it another way, RN is mentally much stronger than RF. I guess it depends on who you cheer for, right?
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2003-2005 when mugs like Phillipousis/Johannson made slam finals
Berdych made a slam final, your argument is completely invalid.
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Berdych made a slam final, your argument is completely invalid.
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Berdych made a slam final, your argument is completely invalid.
Berdych made a slam final beating Federer along the way, plus he's a better/more talented player.

What about Robredo and Blake in top 5? Shuttler in slam final? Roddick in multiple slam finals? Guys who are supposedly talented ballstrikers such as Nalbandian and Baldenko have a single GS final between them despite being top 3 players. Hewitt's USO 2006 performance? Headcase playboy Safin?

Really, if you take a close look you'll quickly find that some Olderer fans are instantly bringing up teenage Nadal's losses, mostly in best of 3 events as their "argument" - which is completely irrelevant, considering he was a CC specialist during Olderer's prime and was prone to defeats off clay.

I have to ask again, did Olderer have REAL rivals off clay before late 2007? And by rival I mean someone who could beat him on GS stage semi regularly?
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Never said anything like that, clown.

But H2H against his biggest rival, puts his entire tennis career into context. Noserer never had real competition and people trying to claim that 2003-2005 when mugs like Phillipousis/Johannson made slam finals, Grandpa Agassi still a slam threat and 2006-2007 (baby Nadal/Djoker not in prime, Blake/Baldenko/Robredo top 5 ) were strong eras are delusional.
And 31 yo ballerina won slams and is ranked #1 while Djoker and Nadal are in their absolute prime?

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The new generation of atheletes who can engage in brutal 50 stroke rallies without making an unforced error. Guys who can retrieve impossible shots and hit with 5000 rpm forehands. They are the future, not the ballerina archaic style of tennis Noserer used to succeed in weak era where he would face monsters like Gasquet and Grosjean in slam semis.
The same brutal new generation of athletes who got bageled by a 31 yo ballerina?

More turds from topspinturds.
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Berdych made a slam final, your argument is completely invalid.
Olderclown is Berdych whipping boy in slams, your argument is completely invalid.
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