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Easy to stain 10 10.64%
Pistol Mugpras 4 4.26%
Tio Toni 26 27.66%
fear of Nadal getting destroyed by Rosol 25 26.60%
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Old 11-09-2012, 02:41 PM   #91
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Ankle injuries I think. But it is a huge shame. The serve-fests in the 1990s weren't always fun but in the 1970s & '80s there were superb matches on carpet featuring Laver, Rosewall, Connors, Borg, McEnroe, Lendl, et al. Now with strings helping the returner so much I suspect carpet matches would be more similar to the 1980s than the 1990s.
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Old 11-09-2012, 05:13 PM   #92
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Ankle injuries I think. But it is a huge shame. The serve-fests in the 1990s weren't always fun but in the 1970s & '80s there were superb matches on carpet featuring Laver, Rosewall, Connors, Borg, McEnroe, Lendl, et al. Now with strings helping the returner so much I suspect carpet matches would be more similar to the 1980s than the 1990s.
Good point about Carpet in the 80's.. good mix between attacking and baseline tennis
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Ankle injuries I think. But it is a huge shame. The serve-fests in the 1990s weren't always fun but in the 1970s & '80s there were superb matches on carpet featuring Laver, Rosewall, Connors, Borg, McEnroe, Lendl, et al. Now with strings helping the returner so much I suspect carpet matches would be more similar to the 1980s than the 1990s.
I doubt so. String can only help if you reach the ball and with the speeds of serving this ain't happening most of the time.

It's already a nightmare to return against Raonic on slow hard and on carpet they all become Raonic.
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is carpet actually faster than wimbly grass (pre-nadal slowness)
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i loved reading through this thread
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is carpet actually faster than wimbly grass (pre-nadal slowness)
Not all Carpet courts were ultra fast
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Ankle injuries I think.
That was the provided excuse.

But the reason was of course Tio Toni.
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As far as my memory serves me, it was BOTH Federer and Nadal who complained about the carpet surfaces citing lame injury excuses and who eventually managed to get rid of the most of it.
If I ever recall a moment of resenting them both, it was that one.

I don't think their complaints were Reason #1 for the ATP to abandon it, rather that the ATP found it pretty convenient that these two lobbied for what would turn out more homogenization of the court surfaces, something the ATP was already inclined to do.

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Carpet was too fast for Noserer. He was afraid to meet Nadal there.
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Pistol Mugpras cannot be excused. His deceitful removal of carpet from the WtF and terrible all serve game is as much to blame as any other.
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Can someone explain the surface?

When I see it mentioned I literally think of people playing on like a shag carpet.
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is carpet actually faster than wimbly grass (pre-nadal slowness)
No, grass was faster and the bounce was lower.

Carpet was faster than the old days' hard.

So there was Grass, indoors carpet, indoors hard, outdoors hard and the only slow surface was clay.

That's also why Emilio Sanchez doesn't have a singles slam and would have had a dozen otherwise.
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Thank god TPD is banned. Was tired of reading the "noserer" BS. Now we need noserer the user to get banned as well.
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