[stebs]

Originally Posted by TigerTim

Train? I hack!!! I am a terrible weekend player

The court coverage of Bristol isn't brilliant, or the UK for that matter

There are enough courts - Cotham Park, Redland, BLTSC, even Coombe Dingle a little further away (I also live in Bristol) - all within minutes of Redland with a range of surfaces (clay, grass, diverse hard courts). It's not accessible for kids or reasonably priced, that's the problem in my opinion.

[TigerTim]

Originally Posted by stebs

There are enough courts - Cotham Park, Redland, BLTSC, even Coombe Dingle a little further away (I also live in Bristol) - all within minutes of Redland with a range of surfaces (clay, grass, diverse hard courts). It's not accessible for kids or reasonably priced, that's the problem in my opinion.

Fair point. I forgot about that! Yes, tennis is expensive.

[Tag]

Originally Posted by nole_no1

lol. So what? Adjust it. The tour is not only about you.Cry-babies

i agree

the pair have acted disgracefully at times

they're like the kray twins of tennis

[August]

I was wondering this, would indoor carpet be a cheaper surface than indoor HC, especially on temporary indoor courts. Installing a HC just sounds more expensive than laying a carpet.

[latso]

"easy to stain" is probably the funniest poll answer on MTF ever

[Tag]

this topic disgusts me every time i read it

Influencerer

Greedal

[latso]

Originally Posted by Tag

this topic disgusts me every time i read it

Influencerer

Greedal

Who said what about Federer? Gulbis f.e. is much more concerned...

Paranoiac much?

[latso]

The tourney directors can't just decide. They need approval from ATP and they wouldn't get it for carpet at all (challengers maybe, but not above).

The main problem with carpet is the same as the general slowing down of the courts - cutting out the unappealing serve fests.

ATP knows that if every match is = to an actual Karlovic - Raonic indoors match, tennis will drop in interest big time.

They'd prefer the classical gladiators' encounters to the death almost (as Djokovic - Nadal AO final), which are more interesting to the general public.

That's all. Slow hard indoors is just this notch slower for the returners to have a chance and have a tennis match. Otherwise the majority of the shots in a match are services, which is honestly quite boring.

I believe Ivanisevic could be named "The killer of carpet". He has a great share for the slowing down process.

[Dougie]

Originally Posted by latso

The tourney directors can't just decide. They need approval from ATP and they wouldn't get it for carpet at all (challengers maybe, but not above).

The main problem with carpet is the same as the general slowing down of the courts - cutting out the unappealing serve fests.

ATP knows that if every match is = to an actual Karlovic - Raonic indoors match, tennis will drop in interest big time.

They'd prefer the classical gladiators' encounters to the death almost (as Djokovic - Nadal AO final), which are more interesting to the general public.

That's all. Slow hard indoors is just this notch slower for the returners to have a chance and have a tennis match. Otherwise the majority of the shots in a match are services, which is honestly quite boring.

I believe Ivanisevic could be named "The killer of carpet". He has a great share for the slowing down process.

All good points. I remember watching matches like Sampras-Becker on indoor carpet when I was a kid, and while both were spectacular players, the matches were really not that interesting. Almost every rally was 1-3 shots. I know a lot of people have a kind of "romantic" idea of carpet courts and want them back, but I sure don´t miss them.
Having said that, the AO final between Nadal and Djokovic is just too much, the courts are so slow that no one even attacks the net anymore. That´s too much, tennis should not be primarily an endurance sport. Outdoor hard courts should be faster and should favor some attacking tennis, no doubt about it. But indoor tennis is much more interesting now than it was in the 90´s.

[sylacauga]

Carpet holds tons of allergens like mold and dust mites. Combine that with tons of sweat produced by hot stinky athletes and I think the answer to this question is pretty obvious. Plus hardwoods are just more aesthetically pleasing IMO.

[Orange Wombat]

There is talk in some Asian Challengers to replace hardcourts with authentic Tibetan rugs (see below).



The surface is actually less expensive to maintain than grass, and the tournament organizers feel it brings about a spiritual feel.

[Tag]

Originally Posted by latso

Who said what about Federer? Gulbis f.e. is much more concerned...

Paranoiac much?

frauderer got carpet removed

didn't you know?

[TigerTim]

Intresting. Those rugs look great

[Roy Emerson]

federer and nadal complained that their games did not translate well to properly fast surfaces

This is only true about Nadal.

[Tag]

Originally Posted by Roy Emerson

This is only true about Nadal.

it's true about frauderer as well

he is on record as saying that slowed down surfaces have helped him win more titles

frauderer did not like carpet apart from in his earliest years