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Easy to stain 10 10.64%
Pistol Mugpras 4 4.26%
Tio Toni 26 27.66%
fear of Nadal getting destroyed by Rosol 25 26.60%
Muger Frauderer 13 13.83%
The price of Persian rugs went up 16 17.02%
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Old 09-22-2012, 03:15 PM   #46
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I asked this once in the S.Q.T. thread and TigerTim answered my question so it's funny he started this thread. I also got a pic of Uncle Toni as an answer
That'd be from me and I also remember that conversation .
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If some unknown talent came out of some random tiny country (no chance to win DC) and won 20 slams, no one would give a single shit if that player didn't have DC. The fact is, success in DC is largely determined by what country you come from or play for in the first place, which most players haven't had any control over.

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Don't care much about carpet removal, problem is the slowing down of hard courts particularly indoor's.
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Are the regulations clear and are the carpet courts actually banned? There's even no theoretical chance that some tournament director decides to lay down a vintage blue supreme court from the year 1991? I'd just love to see that.
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well fair enough!

anyone here ever seen footage of wooden courts? i've read about it, but never seen it. sounds like a riot.
Never seen any footage of it but I used to work at a hotel where we had wooden courts and used to host international events right up until the early 60s. It even hosted a few Davis Cup matches back in the 30s, GBR vs Poland if I remember right. It's a riot if you've got a good serve otherwise it's blink and you miss it.

I wish they'd bring back carpet though, we should have a fair share of all the different court types (..well aside from wood). Somewhere in England Tim Henman is gently sobbing in a corner about the demise of carpet.
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If I was a billionaire, I'd build a tennis club with carpet courts and personally fund a tournament with high prize money just to flip the bird at the ATP's homogenisation drive. Ah if only...
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Are the regulations clear and are the carpet courts actually banned? There's even no theoretical chance that some tournament director decides to lay down a vintage blue supreme court from the year 1991? I'd just love to see that.
Carpet is still allowed in the rules.

Gerflor (Taraflex) still make and sell their version, it's used at some challengers. Apparently the ITF pace measurement for it is a few notches higher than Bercy 2010 :-)


As a tournament director though, would you want to take the risk of being the odd one out? Players might withdraw, your crowds fall, and the tournament can die pretty quickly. A masters can get away with it I suppose, but that's only Bercy, and it's in trouble already with the new schedule.

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Nadal cant play on it. Case solved.
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Players from the WTA were munching the surface.
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They knew Rafito would come along and wouldn't be able to win a single game on carpet so saved him from the embarrassment.
Nadal actually won Madrid 2005 along with making the Paris finals in 2007. Back when they were carpet courts.
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Madrid was never carpet

In 2007 Paris was no longer carpet

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My mistake.


Although I don't see why people are talking about Nadal; He's won titles on fast courts. It's not like the guy is winning solely on one surface. If anyone is to blame of the state of tennis - it's the ATP.


You live in Bristol? Which part?
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Although I don't see why people are talking about Nadal; He's won titles on fast courts. It's not like the guy is winning solely on one surface. If anyone is to blame of the state of tennis - it's the ATP.


You live in Bristol? Which part?
That's like saying Federer has won titles on blue clay.
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That's like saying Federer has won titles on blue clay.
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Paris final 07?
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Although I don't see why people are talking about Nadal; He's won titles on fast courts. It's not like the guy is winning solely on one surface. If anyone is to blame of the state of tennis - it's the ATP.


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