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Old 09-15-2012, 03:52 AM   #61
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Seems he fluked an Olympics Bronze medal too on his worst surface?
No elite player gives a shit about bronze or silver - only gold matters. It's like reaching a slam semi final playing best of 3. Big fucking deal. Djokovic hardly cared during that match + he already has a bronze. See their USO rematch where he made Del-Bashtro look clueless and destroyed him in straights.
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Old 09-15-2012, 03:57 AM   #62
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No elite player gives a shit about bronze or silver - only gold matters. It's like reaching a slam semi final playing best of 3. Big fucking deal. Djokovic hardly cared during that match + he already has a bronze. See their USO rematch where he made Del-Bashtro look clueless and destroyed him in straights.
I think the Olympics are a bit different though - standing on that podium is for your country, not for yourself (like with Slams etc).

Del Potro appears to have fluked one slam (and I think never will win another one), but it was one heck of a fluke - crushing Nadal in the semis, then beating Federer in a Grand Slam final on "fast" hard courts. This is why his subsequent "wrist injury" is such a good excuse as to his decline since then.
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Djokovic and Del Potro are both likely to win RG at some point simply because they're the only two players from the post-Nadal who can play great tennis on clay, not to mention the only two who can realistically beat Nadal on the surface if he comes back strong next year.
Del Potro is not favorite in RG even against guys like Ferrer or Almagro.

Djokovic will win RG for sure, though I think it will be in 2014.

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He's a ballbasher with weak mental strength and no RoS. He draws a big server in early rounds, he's vulnerable. He draws a good returner, he's vulnerable. He reaches the final, he loses, because you need balls to win a slam, which he lacks. Betting on Clownga to win a slam final is like betting on Federer to beat Nadal in Paris.
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I think the Olympics are a bit different though - standing on that podium is for your country, not for yourself (like with Slams etc).

Del Potro appears to have fluked one slam (and I think never will win another one), but it was one heck of a fluke - crushing Nadal in the semis, then beating Federer in a Grand Slam final on "fast" hard courts. This is why his subsequent "wrist injury" is such a good excuse as to his decline since then.
people are missing out on context of those wins. Nadal had an abdominal tear, it's a miracle he was in SF in the first place. Noserer got overconfident, served horrendously (50%, 10 doubles), choked multiple times and still almost won. After Delpo returned he failed to win a single match against Nadal or Olderer, in fact Olderer spanked him easily 5-6 times, of course Del Potro tards are full of excuses - only their man can be injured, apparently. A tennis titan like Del Goatro beat 100%, healthy Nadal 2/2/2 after all
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Del Potro is not favorite in RG even against guys like Ferrer or Almagro.

Djokovic will win RG for sure, though I think it will be in 2014.
Ferrer and Almagro ? This is a South American 250 tournament we're talking about. Those two have been around for many years and have a whooping 1 Roland Garros SF between them. Speaking of whooping, Ferrer won a grand total of 5 games in that semi. Del Potro breadsticked Nadal in their last best of 5 clay match in Nadal's home in Spain, despite his poor fitness at the time. Heck, teenager Del Potro back in 2007 outside the top 100 put up a sterner resistance to Nadal at RG than Ferrer. I know you like to troll, but come on: those two can't compare to JMDP on clay (or any other surface).

Agree about Nole though, he should compete his CGS at some point.



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He's a ballbasher with weak mental strength and no RoS. He draws a big server in early rounds, he's vulnerable. He draws a good returner, he's vulnerable. He reaches the final, he loses, because you need balls to win a slam, which he lacks. Betting on Clownga to win a slam final is like betting on Federer to beat Nadal in Paris.
He has more balls than the rest of the top 10 combined. That is the reason why he's doing so well despite having by far the worst BH in top level tennis and probably the most horrendous ROS the top 10 has ever seen. His problems have nothing to do with his mentality/balls and everything to do with technical weaknesses in his game; he always goes for it regardless of opponent and venue, balls he does not lack.

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people are missing out on context of those wins. Nadal had an abdominal tear, it's a miracle he was in SF in the first place. Noserer got overconfident, served horrendously (50%, 10 doubles), choked multiple times and still almost won. After Delpo returned he failed to win a single match against Nadal or Olderer, in fact Olderer spanked him easily 5-6 times, of course Del Potro tards are full of excuses - only their man can be injured, apparently. A tennis titan like Del Goatro beat 100%, healthy Nadal 2/2/2 after all
Has there been any other top player going through surgery recently?
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Boredo definitely has the worst ROS of any recent top 10. Amount of times a big server has served him off court I cannot count.

So much so he once complained about Karlovic's serve
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Ferrer and Almagro ? This is a South American 250 tournament we're talking about. Those two have been around for many years and have a whooping 1 Roland Garros SF between them. Speaking of whooping, Ferrer won a grand total of 5 games in that semi. Del Potro breadsticked Nadal in their last best of 5 clay match in Nadal's home in Spain, despite his poor fitness at the time. Heck, teenager Del Potro back in 2007 outside the top 100 put up a sterner resistance to Nadal at RG than Ferrer. I know you like to troll, but come on: those two can't compare to JMDP on clay (or any other surface).
5-2 H2H, including win on clay in DC and a severe beating in slam this year. Sorry, but anyone with consistent game and fitness can beat him on clay and grass. You can argue the point, but even if he beats Ferrer, can he grind through several guys like Nole and Nadal on clay? No fucking way. Lightning doesn't strike twice in one place and stars are not aligning for him to ballbash to another title, I am sorry. His clay game is pathetic, he just goes for it like all or nothing clown - sure he can breadstick Nadal. Can he beat him in best of 5 in Paris? Feel free to bet your life savings on it.


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He has more balls than the rest of the top 10 combined. That is the reason why he's doing so well despite having by far the worst BH in top level tennis and probably the most horrendous ROS the top 10 has ever seen. His problems have nothing to do with his mentality/balls and everything to do with technical weaknesses in his game; he always goes for it regardless of opponent and venue, balls he does not lack.
One slam final in his career, in his late 20's now. Doing well indeed. Wait, are we talking about actual slam contenders here or guys that can reach QF/SF at most?

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He had more than enough time to recover. LEt him win masters first then we can talk about slam contention, I mean at least his shitty fitness shouldn't be an issue in best of 3 format, correct?
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I hope he'll be winning Slams as long as he can
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Del Potro for FO.
Del Potro does not have the stamina and endurance to win the FO. IF he ever wins a slam again it will be a HC slam.


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I don't think Tsonga is slam winning material. Has he ever beaten top 4 players back to back anywhere? Berdych has done that at Wimbledon 2010.
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Tsonga beat both Nadal and Murray at the AO in 2008, but that wasn't back-to-back. He ran into Murray in the first round and then beat Nadal in the semis.
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Del Potro does not have the stamina and endurance to win the FO. IF he ever wins a slam again it will be a HC slam.
This is a myth, Del Potro doesn't have any problems with long matches since early 2009. He just recently played a grueling longest 3 setter ever vs Federer in OG and then proceeded to beat Nole in the next match showing no signs of fatigue.

Besides, endurance is much less of a factor on clay than on those very slow, bone crushing hardcourts.



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I don't think Tsonga is slam winning material. Has he ever beaten top 4 players back to back anywhere? Berdych has done that at Wimbledon 2010.
There's a first time for everything. Berdych had also never done it before he actually did it. Not to mention there's a (slim) chance a draw could open up for him in that respect like it did for Murray, who is now a Slam champion without ever having beaten top 3 players back to back at a Slam.
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The problem is his seeding. If there are no upsets he has to beat 3 of them back-to-back in order to win. And even if his draw opens up, because one of them loses in an earlier round he would still have to win two matches against top 4 players. And that is assuming he gets that far, which is not a given either as recently demonstrated. The same goes for Berdych, Del Potro and Ferrer as well.
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Tsonga beat both Nadal and Murray at the AO in 2008, but that wasn't back-to-back. He ran into Murray in the first round and then beat Nadal in the semis.
Murray was not top 4 in January 2008.

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This is a myth, Del Potro doesn't have any problems with long matches since early 2009. He just recently played a grueling longest 3 setter ever vs Federer in OG and then proceeded to beat Nole in the next match showing no signs of fatigue.

Besides, endurance is much less of a factor on clay than on those very slow, bone crushing hardcourts.

There's a first time for everything. Berdych had also never done it before he actually did it. Not to mention there's a (slim) chance a draw could open up for him in that respect like it did for Murray, who is now a Slam champion without ever having beaten top 3 players back to back at a Slam.
Can't see Del Potro winning a slam outside HC. He may not even win a slam again. This is a tough era. I could see Berdych winning a slam someday. Del Potro again as well. Tsonga? Nah.

Slams are not for everyone these days. Look how long it took Murray. We are not in 2002 anymore, an era where it was easier for the Johansson's of the world to win a slam.

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Andy was number #9 back then.

Berdych is 27 (will be in 2 days). When exactly is someday?
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