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Old 09-11-2012, 03:25 AM   #31
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Luckily tennis is going that direction. I cant understand why people want these "only serve" guys like Isner in the top.

Wait for a couple of raonic - isner 5-set matches and see if u still want these guys up at the top, when in 3 hours of tennis u see about 5 or 6 rallies
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Andy and Nole are the best players out there on hard courts currently. Today's match was a great one, and the rallies were a cause of the conditions aligned with their superior movement and defence.

Don't get the complaints. If I hadn't kept falling off the edge of my seat and having chest pains during the forth set, I'd have been severely entertained.
So whats your point? They are the two greatest Hardcourt players? I guess your right but doesnt that kind of support my view on this. If these two are the greatest hardcourt players then what does that show?

As far as the conditions......thats a really lousy arguement...wind is wind. It doesnt change anything. Accually if its windy they should be moving forward more to take court away. Rafter won the open in 98 and it was way more windy then today and he was still coming in all the time. I remember he played Bjorkman in the early rounds and was serving around 70mph while serve and volleying. My point is wind is wind.

I will say this for you players out there though. When its windy get your tail to the net as much as possible. The last thing you want to do is hit 20 ball rallies in the wind. The next to last thing you want to do in the wind is hit passing shots. Little tip for you young guys
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Old 09-11-2012, 03:30 AM   #32
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Default Re: With the slowing of the surfaces and mega defense, should modern players volley m

djokovic is a lost cause when it comes to volleying. he should continue to dictate with the forehand

murray, however, he can benefit a lot more from coming in.

if he upped his first serve% by taking a few miles off (go for 120-125mph with spin rather than 130~mph flat) and came in more often, he'd save himself a lot of silly bother

if he fine tunes his game, it'll adapt perfectly to grass
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Default Re: With the slowing of the surfaces and mega defense, should modern players volley m

They should speed up the courts in Wimbledon and US open a lot more,AO and RG are ok.Two slow and two fast tournaments.
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They should speed up the courts in Wimbledon and US open a lot more,AO and RG are ok.Two slow and two fast tournaments.
RG needs slowed down mate

they sped the wrong slams up, and slowed the wrong ones down
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How many long rallies were there where the other guy was blasting away from the baseline and the othe is getting to everything bc of the surface and putting up floaty defensive slices? That crap makes me sick.
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Default Re: With the slowing of the surfaces and mega defense, should modern players volley m

Let's go back to the golden era of Ivaniservic vs Krajicek - Longest rally 7 shots.
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Default Re: With the slowing of the surfaces and mega defense, should modern players volley m

I believe so. Since Johnny Groove is "top 100 material" according to his coach, I can't wait till gets there and unleashes volley hell upon unsuspecting mugs like Olderer, Nadal and Djokovic, winning at least 10 slams in process. Who knows, maybe in 10 years or so MTF will be having discussions such as "Peak Johnny Groove vs No2e, 2008 Nadal and 2006 Olderer"
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Default Re: With the slowing of the surfaces and mega defense, should modern players volley m

I really don't understand people who judge the quality of the rally by the number of shots played. I'd always rather watch winning tennis than endless cross court topspin endurance runs.
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Let's go back to the golden era of Ivaniservic vs Krajicek - Longest rally 7 shots.
This is what I am talking about. Krajicek serve and volleyed you dope. What do you expect? Serve and volley then run back to the baseline and fit forehand slices until the opponent misses?

OOOOOOHHHHHHHH look....they play just as good as the ladies!!!

Just having some fun with you mate.
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Let's go back to the golden era of Ivaniservic vs Krajicek - Longest rally 7 shots.
obviously never watched krajicek play

man could serve, volley and rally when necessary

only man to beat sampras at wimbledon in 8 years, says it all. would've won a 2nd slam if he hadn't been so injury prone

you're missing the point anyway; you put ivanisevic and sampras on this slowed down, high bouncing grass, you'd still get an ace fest

the point is that serving, volleying and attacking all-court tennis is not rewarded by the surfaces that should rightly favour it
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Let's go back to the golden era of Ivaniservic vs Krajicek - Longest rally 7 shots.
You don't have to go back to one extreme, a happy medium would suffice
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Default Re: With the slowing of the surfaces and mega defense, should modern players volley m

No need to volley more. Only Djokovic has to improve his pathetic fitness. I want to see 7 hr rematch at AO.
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Default Re: With the slowing of the surfaces and mega defense, should modern players volley m

I agree with the OP. Developing a net game to cut off rallies before getting exhausted is the logical next step in the evolution of the modern player.
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Groove, you forgot to mention Federer's brilliant net play in that Wimbledon final. It made all the difference in the world. Murray was not much better (if not worse) at the passing shots yesterday, so Djokovic could have taken advantage if he knew how to volley.
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I agree with the OP. Developing a net game to cut off rallies before getting exhausted is the logical next step in the evolution of the modern player.
rallies over 30 shots on a non-clay court should result in the game being instantly abandoned, with both players being fined and forced to attend a volley camp with edberg and sampras

this would certainly force players to volley and learn all court craft
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