How is Tomic ranked 43rd? Where is the upcoming talent? - MensTennisForums.com

MensTennisForums.com

MenstennisForums.com is the premier Men's Tennis forum on the internet. Registered Users do not see the above ads.Please Register - It's Free!

Reply

Old 09-01-2012, 11:57 AM   #1
country flag Wing Man Frank
Banned!
 
Join Date: May 2010
Posts: 3,681
Wing Man Frank has a reputation beyond reputeWing Man Frank has a reputation beyond reputeWing Man Frank has a reputation beyond reputeWing Man Frank has a reputation beyond reputeWing Man Frank has a reputation beyond reputeWing Man Frank has a reputation beyond reputeWing Man Frank has a reputation beyond reputeWing Man Frank has a reputation beyond reputeWing Man Frank has a reputation beyond reputeWing Man Frank has a reputation beyond reputeWing Man Frank has a reputation beyond repute
Default How is Tomic ranked 43rd? Where is the upcoming talent?

Question is, how? He has surely got to be the most overrated youngster there has ever been. If he makes it inside the top 20 the other players should be asking serious questions of each other. His backhand is a joke, his shot selection is non-existant and for a man of his height he possesses absolutely no weapons whatsoever.

Even when you have a look at the other youngsters, how is Raonic at 16 in the world? He's barely done a thing since the clay court season began.

There's a serious lack of talent coming through. People can blame it on the slowing of the courts (believe there's 23 30+ year olds in the top 100 now), but who is there to get excited about?
Wing Man Frank is offline View My Blog!   Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 

Old 09-01-2012, 12:01 PM   #2
country flag Sombrerero loco
Registered User
 
Sombrerero loco's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Age: 25
Posts: 48,525
Sombrerero loco has a reputation beyond reputeSombrerero loco has a reputation beyond reputeSombrerero loco has a reputation beyond reputeSombrerero loco has a reputation beyond reputeSombrerero loco has a reputation beyond reputeSombrerero loco has a reputation beyond reputeSombrerero loco has a reputation beyond reputeSombrerero loco has a reputation beyond reputeSombrerero loco has a reputation beyond reputeSombrerero loco has a reputation beyond reputeSombrerero loco has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: How is Tomic ranked 43rd? Where is the upcoming talent?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Wing Man Frank View Post
Question is, how? He has surely got to be the most overrated youngster there has ever been. If he makes it inside the top 20 the other players should be asking serious questions of each other. His backhand is a joke, his shot selection is non-existant and for a man of his height he possesses absolutely no weapons whatsoever.

Even when you have a look at the other youngsters, how is Raonic at 16 in the world? He's barely done a thing since the clay court season began.

There's a serious lack of talent coming through. People can blame it on the slowing of the courts (believe there's 23 30+ year olds in the top 100 now), but who is there to get excited about?
i just selected the most hilarious one


how is he ranked 43rd? well, he is the 43rd guy in the world who earned more points in atp tournaments during the last 12 months
__________________
Henri KONTINEN

Jerzy Janowicz/Bernard the aTomic /Thanasi Kokkinakis/Kei Nishikori

John Millman / Javier Martí/Taro Daniel-Jules Marie-Josh Milton


Henkka Kontinen
-Nick Kyrgios-Henri Laaksonen- Attila Balazs- Pierre Hugues Herbert-Alex Bolt-Marcus Willis-Kristijan Mesaros-Brydan Klein-Chris Rungkat-Piotr Gadomski-Hugo Nys-Pol Toledo
www.tennisalternative.com
Sombrerero loco is offline View My Blog!   Reply With Quote
Old 09-01-2012, 12:15 PM   #3
country flag Pratik
Registered User
 
Pratik's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Rheinland-Pfalz
Posts: 9,351
Pratik has a reputation beyond reputePratik has a reputation beyond reputePratik has a reputation beyond reputePratik has a reputation beyond reputePratik has a reputation beyond reputePratik has a reputation beyond reputePratik has a reputation beyond reputePratik has a reputation beyond reputePratik has a reputation beyond reputePratik has a reputation beyond reputePratik has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: How is Tomic ranked 43rd? Where is the upcoming talent?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Wing Man Frank View Post
Question is, how? He has surely got to be the most overrated youngster there has ever been. If he makes it inside the top 20 the other players should be asking serious questions of each other. His backhand is a joke, his shot selection is non-existant and for a man of his height he possesses absolutely no weapons whatsoever.

Even when you have a look at the other youngsters, how is Raonic at 16 in the world? He's barely done a thing since the clay court season began.

There's a serious lack of talent coming through. People can blame it on the slowing of the courts (believe there's 23 30+ year olds in the top 100 now), but who is there to get excited about?
http://www.atpworldtour.com/Rankings/Rankings-FAQ.aspx
You may want to read this.
If you still don't understand read pages 187-196 of the 2012 ATP Rulebook.
If you still don't understand ask a 10 year old to explain it to you.
Pratik is offline View My Blog!   Reply With Quote
Old 09-01-2012, 12:17 PM   #4
country flag Wing Man Frank
Banned!
 
Join Date: May 2010
Posts: 3,681
Wing Man Frank has a reputation beyond reputeWing Man Frank has a reputation beyond reputeWing Man Frank has a reputation beyond reputeWing Man Frank has a reputation beyond reputeWing Man Frank has a reputation beyond reputeWing Man Frank has a reputation beyond reputeWing Man Frank has a reputation beyond reputeWing Man Frank has a reputation beyond reputeWing Man Frank has a reputation beyond reputeWing Man Frank has a reputation beyond reputeWing Man Frank has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: How is Tomic ranked 43rd? Where is the upcoming talent?

Sombrerero loco, Tomic this year has reached the semi-finals in Brisbane (in week one), the fourth round in the Aussie Open (week 3), a quarter final in Delray Beach (week 9), a quarter final in Munich (week 18) and the third round in Cincinnati (week 33).

In EIGHTEEEN other tournaments he has failed to get past round two.

If you think incessantly hit sliced backhands to Roddick is a smart play, I'm amazed. Tomic is meant to be part of the future, yet you put him on a grandstand court against old man Roddick in an evening session and he gets beat 3, 4, 0 whilst creating no break point chances.

Pathetic.

That sort of form takes you to 43 in the world? Crazy.
Wing Man Frank is offline View My Blog!   Reply With Quote
Old 09-01-2012, 12:21 PM   #5
country flag Wing Man Frank
Banned!
 
Join Date: May 2010
Posts: 3,681
Wing Man Frank has a reputation beyond reputeWing Man Frank has a reputation beyond reputeWing Man Frank has a reputation beyond reputeWing Man Frank has a reputation beyond reputeWing Man Frank has a reputation beyond reputeWing Man Frank has a reputation beyond reputeWing Man Frank has a reputation beyond reputeWing Man Frank has a reputation beyond reputeWing Man Frank has a reputation beyond reputeWing Man Frank has a reputation beyond reputeWing Man Frank has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: How is Tomic ranked 43rd? Where is the upcoming talent?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Pratik View Post
http://www.atpworldtour.com/Rankings/Rankings-FAQ.aspx
You may want to read this.
If you still don't understand read pages 187-196 of the 2012 ATP Rulebook.
If you still don't understand ask a 10 year old to explain it to you.
Your post is an easy escape route. Milos, in arguably the most important part of his season has been awful in recent months. He's struggled big time and it seems incredible that a player still with so much to learn can be as high as number 16 already.

Really makes you question the depth in men's tennis.
Wing Man Frank is offline View My Blog!   Reply With Quote
Old 09-01-2012, 12:35 PM   #6
country flag Sanya
Registered User
 
Sanya's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Age: 23
Posts: 2,351
Sanya has a reputation beyond reputeSanya has a reputation beyond reputeSanya has a reputation beyond reputeSanya has a reputation beyond reputeSanya has a reputation beyond reputeSanya has a reputation beyond reputeSanya has a reputation beyond reputeSanya has a reputation beyond reputeSanya has a reputation beyond reputeSanya has a reputation beyond reputeSanya has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: How is Tomic ranked 43rd? Where is the upcoming talent?

Strong era.
__________________
Gasquet is next №1
Sanya is offline View My Blog!   Reply With Quote
Old 09-01-2012, 12:35 PM   #7
country flag Pratik
Registered User
 
Pratik's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Rheinland-Pfalz
Posts: 9,351
Pratik has a reputation beyond reputePratik has a reputation beyond reputePratik has a reputation beyond reputePratik has a reputation beyond reputePratik has a reputation beyond reputePratik has a reputation beyond reputePratik has a reputation beyond reputePratik has a reputation beyond reputePratik has a reputation beyond reputePratik has a reputation beyond reputePratik has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: How is Tomic ranked 43rd? Where is the upcoming talent?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Wing Man Frank View Post
Your post is an easy escape route. Milos, in arguably the most important part of his season has been awful in recent months. He's struggled big time and it seems incredible that a player still with so much to learn can be as high as number 16 already.

Really makes you question the depth in men's tennis.
Clay and Grass is the most important part of his season
He is predominantly a hard court player. He was ranked outside the top 20 after the Olympics. Two QF in MS tournaments got him to the top 16. He is currently holding two 250 titles, and has 500 finals. And you are saying that he does not deserve to be in the top 20 because of his lack of results.

What more do you want? Everyone in the top 20 should be a GS semifinalist and MS finalist?
Pratik is offline View My Blog!   Reply With Quote
Old 09-01-2012, 12:38 PM   #8
country flag Sombrerero loco
Registered User
 
Sombrerero loco's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Age: 25
Posts: 48,525
Sombrerero loco has a reputation beyond reputeSombrerero loco has a reputation beyond reputeSombrerero loco has a reputation beyond reputeSombrerero loco has a reputation beyond reputeSombrerero loco has a reputation beyond reputeSombrerero loco has a reputation beyond reputeSombrerero loco has a reputation beyond reputeSombrerero loco has a reputation beyond reputeSombrerero loco has a reputation beyond reputeSombrerero loco has a reputation beyond reputeSombrerero loco has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: How is Tomic ranked 43rd? Where is the upcoming talent?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Wing Man Frank View Post
Sombrerero loco, Tomic this year has reached the semi-finals in Brisbane (in week one), the fourth round in the Aussie Open (week 3), a quarter final in Delray Beach (week 9), a quarter final in Munich (week 18) and the third round in Cincinnati (week 33).

In EIGHTEEEN other tournaments he has failed to get past round two.

If you think incessantly hit sliced backhands to Roddick is a smart play, I'm amazed. Tomic is meant to be part of the future, yet you put him on a grandstand court against old man Roddick in an evening session and he gets beat 3, 4, 0 whilst creating no break point chances.

Pathetic.

That sort of form takes you to 43 in the world? Crazy.
well this points are enough to make you 43 in the world
i mean some guys from above dont have more impressive results than him
what count its the points you earn. if he is 43rd in the world, its because there are only 42 guys who earned more points in the lasts 12 months
__________________
Henri KONTINEN

Jerzy Janowicz/Bernard the aTomic /Thanasi Kokkinakis/Kei Nishikori

John Millman / Javier Martí/Taro Daniel-Jules Marie-Josh Milton


Henkka Kontinen
-Nick Kyrgios-Henri Laaksonen- Attila Balazs- Pierre Hugues Herbert-Alex Bolt-Marcus Willis-Kristijan Mesaros-Brydan Klein-Chris Rungkat-Piotr Gadomski-Hugo Nys-Pol Toledo
www.tennisalternative.com
Sombrerero loco is offline View My Blog!   Reply With Quote
Old 09-01-2012, 12:55 PM   #9
country flag tennisfan856
Registered User
 
tennisfan856's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Age: 29
Posts: 6,793
tennisfan856 has a reputation beyond reputetennisfan856 has a reputation beyond reputetennisfan856 has a reputation beyond reputetennisfan856 has a reputation beyond reputetennisfan856 has a reputation beyond reputetennisfan856 has a reputation beyond reputetennisfan856 has a reputation beyond reputetennisfan856 has a reputation beyond reputetennisfan856 has a reputation beyond reputetennisfan856 has a reputation beyond reputetennisfan856 has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: How is Tomic ranked 43rd? Where is the upcoming talent?

one can only hope he flops during the australian season.
tennisfan856 is offline View My Blog!   Reply With Quote
Old 09-01-2012, 01:08 PM   #10
country flag Apophis
Registered User
 
Apophis's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Valles Marineris, Mars
Posts: 864
Apophis has a reputation beyond reputeApophis has a reputation beyond reputeApophis has a reputation beyond reputeApophis has a reputation beyond reputeApophis has a reputation beyond reputeApophis has a reputation beyond reputeApophis has a reputation beyond reputeApophis has a reputation beyond reputeApophis has a reputation beyond reputeApophis has a reputation beyond reputeApophis has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: How is Tomic ranked 43rd? Where is the upcoming talent?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Wing Man Frank View Post
Your post is an easy escape route. Milos, in arguably the most important part of his season has been awful in recent months. He's struggled big time and it seems incredible that a player still with so much to learn can be as high as number 16 already.

Really makes you question the depth in men's tennis.
This thread makes no sense at all. Because a well-ranked player is bad in your opinion, you conclude that all of tennis is in a poor state? Have you considered the much simpler explanation of this conundrum: that your judgement of this player's quality is off?
Apophis is offline View My Blog!   Reply With Quote
Old 09-01-2012, 01:26 PM   #11
country flag Andy1402
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Age: 24
Posts: 315
Andy1402 has a reputation beyond reputeAndy1402 has a reputation beyond reputeAndy1402 has a reputation beyond reputeAndy1402 has a reputation beyond reputeAndy1402 has a reputation beyond reputeAndy1402 has a reputation beyond reputeAndy1402 has a reputation beyond reputeAndy1402 has a reputation beyond reputeAndy1402 has a reputation beyond reputeAndy1402 has a reputation beyond reputeAndy1402 has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: How is Tomic ranked 43rd? Where is the upcoming talent?

ATP is gonna become like WTA once the last of the current big 4 retires.
Then we stop watching..
__________________
A wise man once told me,
don't argue with a fool
'cause people from a distance can't tell who is who.

-Jay Z
Andy1402 is offline View My Blog!   Reply With Quote
Old 09-01-2012, 01:33 PM   #12
country flag romismak
Registered User
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Age: 23
Posts: 3,811
romismak has a reputation beyond reputeromismak has a reputation beyond reputeromismak has a reputation beyond reputeromismak has a reputation beyond reputeromismak has a reputation beyond reputeromismak has a reputation beyond reputeromismak has a reputation beyond reputeromismak has a reputation beyond reputeromismak has a reputation beyond reputeromismak has a reputation beyond reputeromismak has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: How is Tomic ranked 43rd? Where is the upcoming talent?

Didn´t read much of posts so just wrote my opinion - Tomic is super overrated, i think he is talented yes, but he really is doing nothing to improove, i think he was better player last year, don´t remember his ranking but i wouldn´t be surprised if he ends up 2012 wit worse ranking than 2011, level wise he was at least in Wimby QF in 2011, this year since beginning - Brisbane, AO he really is nobody, not someone to be scared off. His BH slice is boring and if this is what he thinks will give him succes he is wrong.

Worst thing on him he looks like he has won 10 slams - very bad attitude + his serve is joke for guy of his size, he has the same size like Milos or Tomas- o.k. Milos is freak one of best serves out there, but even Berdych is by far bigger server. Even Cilic and Hanescu from those tall guys are better servers than he is.

About RAonic - yes he is overrated too, but he at least can backup his results and hype about him. He has major weapons, while Tomic doesn´t.

Actually he already improoved fro last season, remember 2011 his start and 2012 this start - the same San Jose, Memphis - but 2011 3-setter tie-breaks and close matches, this year he won mostly in straight sets, without needing so many tie-breaks. BTW clay and grass aren´t his surfaces, but 2x QF at summer HC Masters not bad, now if he will beat Blake and loose to Murray in R4 in slam - not bad either.
romismak is offline View My Blog!   Reply With Quote
Old 09-01-2012, 02:01 PM   #13
country flag atennisfan
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Posts: 3,005
atennisfan has a reputation beyond reputeatennisfan has a reputation beyond reputeatennisfan has a reputation beyond reputeatennisfan has a reputation beyond reputeatennisfan has a reputation beyond reputeatennisfan has a reputation beyond reputeatennisfan has a reputation beyond reputeatennisfan has a reputation beyond reputeatennisfan has a reputation beyond reputeatennisfan has a reputation beyond reputeatennisfan has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: How is Tomic ranked 43rd? Where is the upcoming talent?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Wing Man Frank View Post
but who is there to get excited about?
No one.

Djokovic, Murray and Delpo are lucky they will still be playing and winning slams in the next 5+ years when the most talented youngsters they will have to face are Tomic, Harrison, Raonic.
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by Topspindoctor View Post
People need to wake up. Olderer is not winning anymore slams - neither is he going to become #1.
atennisfan is offline View My Blog!   Reply With Quote
Old 09-01-2012, 02:30 PM   #14
country flag lazybear
Registered User
 
lazybear's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Age: 32
Posts: 660
lazybear has a reputation beyond reputelazybear has a reputation beyond reputelazybear has a reputation beyond reputelazybear has a reputation beyond reputelazybear has a reputation beyond reputelazybear has a reputation beyond reputelazybear has a reputation beyond reputelazybear has a reputation beyond reputelazybear has a reputation beyond reputelazybear has a reputation beyond reputelazybear has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: How is Tomic ranked 43rd? Where is the upcoming talent?

There are 0 wonderkids at the moment. It's really sad. Oh well, probably sooner than later the next big thing gonna emerge.
lazybear is offline View My Blog!   Reply With Quote
Old 09-01-2012, 02:42 PM   #15
country flag comesbackatlast
Registered User
 
comesbackatlast's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Posts: 371
comesbackatlast has a reputation beyond reputecomesbackatlast has a reputation beyond reputecomesbackatlast has a reputation beyond reputecomesbackatlast has a reputation beyond reputecomesbackatlast has a reputation beyond reputecomesbackatlast has a reputation beyond reputecomesbackatlast has a reputation beyond reputecomesbackatlast has a reputation beyond reputecomesbackatlast has a reputation beyond reputecomesbackatlast has a reputation beyond reputecomesbackatlast has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: How is Tomic ranked 43rd? Where is the upcoming talent?

Where is the what what?
__________________
__________________________________________________

Chuck Norris Facts in Tennis - "Best of"!
comesbackatlast is offline View My Blog!   Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump


Copyright (C) Verticalscope Inc
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.8
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
vBCredits v1.4 Copyright ©2007, PixelFX Studios