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Old 09-01-2012, 06:46 PM   #31
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No it's not okay to call another poster a 'fucking idiot', one who went to the effort of creating the threat in the first place. It's rude, insulting and against the rules. The rest was more of the same, what don't you understand about that? have you read the rules? you probably should. It wasn't protesting, it was downright insulting and condescending as Mark put it. We don't need that kind of language here, its not pre-school and there are better ways of conveying your ideas.

This is a huge forum with various sections and various options. The fact that you cant deal with the ones you don't agree with doesn't make it a bad forum. There's a Ferrer forum where i gather you can fawn over your beloved vulture there.

The fact that you downplay Thunderfish's ignorant rant as 'protesting' makes me think that you're playing the role as wind-up merchant and that YOU are the one trolling. So please lets cut the fake behavior, its rather unattractive . I could go on but neither of you are worth much of my time.
Oh yes, he broke the rules, because he abused someone using insults. Well, I agree that using insults was not the best idea. My problem is, you can't use insults, but if you abuse players using every other means (like stupid nicknames and constant drivel whenever the player is talked about), it's not against the rules, so it's MUCH better.
I know forum rules, I know how forums work, but I've never known a forum where people are allowed to be so disrespectful and rude all the time.

It's easy to make it sound as if I'm unhappy because I can't take contradiction. It's the old argument you always get whenever you complain about anything. But you know, I've been on other forums before. If I had a problem with contradiction, I wouldn't go on forums at all, because you always meet contradiction on any forum.

The problem is, your attitude (and that of the other people concerned) is not contradiction. It is a kind of constant harrassment and aggression, that brings absolutely nothing positive. You're not debating anything, you're just asserting your opinions as if they were absolute truths and anyone not agreeing with them is an idiot.

I am aware of the existence of fan forums dedicated to each player, thank you. I will probably end up retreating there, when I get really tired of the bad attitudes on the main forum.
But I don't think it's normal that ordinary fans have to put up with all the silly abuse given to their favourite players. And I'm not only talking about Ferrer here. I also get annoyed at how other players are constantly being abused, including players I don't really like, like Murray or Nadal.
That's not the kind of stuff I hope to find on a forum. I take no pleasure in abusing players I don't like, or seeing people do that.
Maybe what they should really do is create a "haters" forum where haters can have their cheap laughs without polluting every single discussion thread about a match.

I find the comments about "pre-school" or Mark Lenders' comments about kids going back to school very funny, because it is precisely the attitude of haters on this forum that seems extremely childish and immature to me...

Anyway. I'm not fake and I'm not trolling, sory to disappoint you... As a good Ferrer fan, I am a perfectly boring, honest person.
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Old 09-01-2012, 07:25 PM   #32
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Oh yes, he broke the rules, because he abused someone using insults. Well, I agree that using insults was not the best idea. My problem is, you can't use insults, but if you abuse players using every other means (like stupid nicknames and constant drivel whenever the player is talked about), it's not against the rules, so it's MUCH better.
I know forum rules, I know how forums work, but I've never known a forum where people are allowed to be so disrespectful and rude all the time.

It's easy to make it sound as if I'm unhappy because I can't take contradiction. It's the old argument you always get whenever you complain about anything. But you know, I've been on other forums before. If I had a problem with contradiction, I wouldn't go on forums at all, because you always meet contradiction on any forum.

The problem is, your attitude (and that of the other people concerned) is not contradiction. It is a kind of constant harrassment and aggression, that brings absolutely nothing positive. You're not debating anything, you're just asserting your opinions as if they were absolute truths and anyone not agreeing with them is an idiot.

I am aware of the existence of fan forums dedicated to each player, thank you. I will probably end up retreating there, when I get really tired of the bad attitudes on the main forum.
But I don't think it's normal that ordinary fans have to put up with all the silly abuse given to their favourite players. And I'm not only talking about Ferrer here. I also get annoyed at how other players are constantly being abused, including players I don't really like, like Murray or Nadal.
That's not the kind of stuff I hope to find on a forum. I take no pleasure in abusing players I don't like, or seeing people do that.
Maybe what they should really do is create a "haters" forum where haters can have their cheap laughs without polluting every single discussion thread about a match.

I find the comments about "pre-school" or Mark Lenders' comments about kids going back to school very funny, because it is precisely the attitude of haters on this forum that seems extremely childish and immature to me...

Anyway. I'm not fake and I'm not trolling, sory to disappoint you... As a good Ferrer fan, I am a perfectly boring, honest person.
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Old 09-01-2012, 09:12 PM   #33
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Sorry for posting again, but... Someone told me I should check the forum rules. Well, among the forum rules, there is one that says: "Do not start threads with the sole intention of bashing a player".
I'm sorry, but given the first post in this thread, this looks very much like a post started to bash a player disguised as a discussion about the match...

Regarding insults, of course I do not support insulting people. However, I did share the feelings expressed by Thunderfish8, even though I did not entirely approve the manner.
What's more, when I see people using such expressions as "taking out the trash" when referring to a player taking another player out, I find that shocking and as close to an insult as you can get.
So seeing people, who use this type of expression regularly, claiming to be mortified because someone got angry and used the insult "f*** idiot"... Well I don't know, it's a bit difficult to swallow.
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Pretty good of Sijsling to make it to a TB in that 3rd set.

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well i figured it was only a matter of time before the mods found and removed my post and all of its supporters... and all of their reputation given.

well at least i now know that im not the only one who has that opinion
Hypocritical modding, what else is new. Guys like Tyson and Lenders and pusher for life are free to bash Pics but the moment someone says something about their tired and repetitive trolling, it gets deleted
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That said, it's a shame that post was deleted, it was some of the finest and most condescending whining I've ever seen in an Internet forum, wish I had saved it before it was deleted
It was an outraged and passionate rant that at times went over the line with personal insults, true, but it was far from 'condescending whining' as put it, which is a rather paradoxical statement as one word implies a sense of sneering superiority and the other pathetic inferiority...

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Good thing the school year is about to start, we need something to keep these kids busy instead of throwing tantrums on MTF because some meany posters because someone has criticized their favorite player.
Now this is a perfect example of condescension

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Regarding insults, of course I do not support insulting people. However, I did share the feelings expressed by Thunderfish8, even though I did not entirely approve the manner.
Same here and not only are you definitely not alone, I feel confident enough to claim we're in the comfortable - even overwhelming - majority.

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So seeing people, who use this type of expression regularly, claiming to be mortified because someone got angry and used the insult "f*** idiot"... Well I don't know, it's a bit difficult to swallow.
It's called hypocrisy and it's one thing I detest more than stupidity. That's why I don't mind silly trolls or blind haters as much as the wanna-be 'smart' dissenters constantly pushing their anti-Ferrer agenda based on spurious claims and then expressing maidenly horror when someone honestly but bluntly calls one of them on their bullshit.
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you guys just give them what they want by responding to them. if you leave Lenders' and Tyson's posts -- just post around them as though they aren't even there -- it would be much more effective. Their main objective isn't to poison neutral fans against Ferrer and turn them against him; that's secondary. What they really want is to infuriate Ferrer's fans and then laugh at their angry posts (that is the main attribute of a troll).

Ferrer doesn't need his fans to defend him on some internet forum. He's number 5 in the world and doing fine. All this picking on Ferrer and "vulture" fad would go away if people didn't keep throwing fuel on the fire.
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you guys just give them what they want by responding to them. if you leave Lenders' and Tyson's posts -- just post around them as though they aren't even there -- it would be much more effective. Their main objective isn't to poison neutral fans against Ferrer and turn them against him; that's secondary. What they really want is to infuriate Ferrer's fans and then laugh at their angry posts (that is the main attribute of a troll).

Ferrer doesn't need his fans to defend him on some internet forum. He's number 5 in the world and doing fine. All this picking on Ferrer and "vulture" fad would go away if people didn't keep throwing fuel on the fire.
Exactly.

1. Add the following to ignore; Mark Lenders, Tyson0712, pusher for life
2. Don't reply to any post from them (even when ignored you see their post when others quote them)
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Exactly.

1. Add the following to ignore; Mark Lenders, Tyson0712, pusher for life
2. Don't reply to any post from them (even when ignored you see their post when others quote them)
Yep. That's what I've done. It's the only solution.
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you guys just give them what they want by responding to them. if you leave Lenders' and Tyson's posts -- just post around them as though they aren't even there -- it would be much more effective. Their main objective isn't to poison neutral fans against Ferrer and turn them against him; that's secondary. What they really want is to infuriate Ferrer's fans and then laugh at their angry posts (that is the main attribute of a troll).

Ferrer doesn't need his fans to defend him on some internet forum. He's number 5 in the world and doing fine. All this picking on Ferrer and "vulture" fad would go away if people didn't keep throwing fuel on the fire.
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A scene from #5 reaching R3, damn the Ferrer-hate is pathetic.
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Exactly.

1. Add the following to ignore; Mark Lenders, Tyson0712, pusher for life
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how do you set people to ignore??
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It was an outraged and passionate rant that at times went over the line with personal insults, true, but it was far from 'condescending whining' as put it, which is a rather paradoxical statement as one word implies a sense of sneering superiority and the other pathetic inferiority...


Now this is a perfect example of condescension


Same here and not only are you definitely not alone, I feel confident enough to claim we're in the comfortable - even overwhelming - majority.


It's called hypocrisy and it's one thing I detest more than stupidity. That's why I don't mind silly trolls or blind haters as much as the wanna-be 'smart' dissenters constantly pushing their anti-Ferrer agenda based on spurious claims and then expressing maidenly horror when someone honestly but bluntly calls one of them on their bullshit.
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all 4 of these comments are 100% true
if only i'd chosen to not make my original rant explicit... this would be such a one-sided argument
although it kind of is anyway cuz that's the only complaint i've heard
nobody seems to have a problem with the legitimate portion of that post
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Hypocritical modding, what else is new. Guys like Tyson and Lenders and pusher for life are free to bash Pics but the moment someone says something about their tired and repetitive trolling, it gets deleted
Maybe it's because we are civilized people who did not go on an insult-filled rant against people who don't share our point of view. He's very lucky he merely got his post deleted, I've seen posters get banned for far less; if he can't accept that people can criticize his favorite player, he should not be in a forum at all, where people are supposed to be free to share their opinions.
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