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Old 08-30-2012, 11:39 PM   #1
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Default Tsonga: I must play more smaller tournaments if i want to keep my ranking

This is basically what he said in his interview, with those rules even 6x250 can be counted, i think he meant Ferrer for example.

He must play those events, because otherwise guys who play those smaller events can surpass him in ranking and if go down in ranking he can play top guys sooner like R16- i think he wants to stay in top 8 to have his own quarter but interresint point of view from his perspective, that he needs to play those 250s to have points, he can´t rest like Federer for example, he can´t take this luxury.

http://www.usopen.org/en_US/news/int...358649102.html

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Do you feel like you really do have to play every week? I mean, it's sort of your choice not to play certain weeks now. Like you didn't have to play last week, right?

JO‑WILFRIED TSONGA: If I want to have ‑‑ you always ask me about my ranking and if you're 4 or 5, but to be at this rank I have to be competitive with the other guy who play all week. And the new rules of the ATP where there is like six tournaments, 250, who count, it's very bad for me. Because all the player who all play this tournament pass me if I don't play them. So I have to play.



Q. In a slam, 127 players go home and lose and one wins. Dealing with defeat is important. How do you deal with your losses? Do some stay longer than others. How do you deal with it?

JO‑WILFRIED TSONGA: I always try to keep my head up and practice a lot. When I'm angry with me, I just practice a lot, yeah.



Q. Can you blame it on your coach?

JO‑WILFRIED TSONGA: What?



Q. Can you blame it on your coach?

JO‑WILFRIED TSONGA: Yeah, sometimes I do it. (Laughter.)



Q. You came in here as the No. 5 men's seed. Obviously Djokovic, Federer, Murray, big three, is there a big gap at this point between those three and everybody else, in your opinion? Or it just seems that way to the laymen, a big talent gap between the top three and everybody else.

JO‑WILFRIED TSONGA: (Through translation.) Yeah, I think for the moment there is a big difference. The difference is they win tournaments and not the others. (Smiling.) What is difficult here also is with that, you ‑‑ I forget the word. (Through translation.) You never, you know ‑‑ it's tough to get reward when you play with this guy, you know. So I work, you know, a lot hard every week. I give a lot of myself every day. I never get rewards. That's why sometimes it's tough.



Q. Federer talks sometimes about how important it is to take vacations off the court just to get himself mentally ready for the big tournaments. Do you feel you do enough of that?

JO‑WILFRIED TSONGA: Oh, I feel I don't have enough. But like I said before, I have to play because I'm not Federer, not Djokovic, and if I want keep my ranking and not play these guys in round of 16, you know, I have to play these tournament.
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Old 08-30-2012, 11:42 PM   #2
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Tsonga has no idea how tennis works.
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Man, you are not Federer or Djokovic, but you are Tsonga, one of the 7-8 greatest player for last few years.

This thread will have the same speach as one about Berdych and confidence. And someone will write about vulturing too for sure.
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I found the answer before that more revealing: "The difference is they win tournaments and not the others. (Smiling.) What is difficult here also is with that, you ‑‑ I forget the word. (Through translation.) You never, you know ‑‑ it's tough to get reward when you play with this guy, you know. So I work, you know, a lot hard every week. I give a lot of myself every day. I never get rewards. That's why sometimes it's tough."

His and Berdych's comments display a mental defeat. They work really hard, are amazing players, but struggle to even make Masters SFs and Fs, let alone win them. A QF ceiling has been placed on them by the top 4 - so they work hard, but don't get the big titles. I don't get it though - he's good enough to beat the top 4 - certainly in best of 3. Needs to have more belief in his talent rather than feeling sorry for himself that the top 4 do so well.
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Reading it in his choppy English makes me feel really sad for him, like he's depressed ;________;
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His and Berdych's comments display a mental defeat. They work really hard, are amazing players, but struggle to even make Masters SFs and Fs, let alone win them. A QF ceiling has been placed on them by the top 4 - so they work hard, but don't get the big titles. I don't get it though - he's good enough to beat the top 4 - certainly in best of 3. Needs to have more belief in his talent rather than feeling sorry for himself that the top 4 do so well.
And I don't get why it's the talk about top 4 all the time, Tsonga was losing this year also to Nishikori, Haas, Del Potro, Nalbandian, Isner, Simon, Dolgo... that doesn't sound to me like someone who has a problem only against the top
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Tsonga just has to be more consistent, especially with his serve. The thing about the French players that gets on my nerves is how they seem to play so far back on hard courts, like they are play on clay. A big guy with a good forehand should not be off the base line. This maddening type of tennis is the hallmark of Monfils.
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Pretty sure being tired and losing 2nd round in the US Open does more to damage your ranking than anything, Tsonga.
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I can see where he is coming from. Right now, the only one of the top guys who hasn't won a slam and therefore is the best quarter to have when all 4 are present... that's Murray. And he has the worst record against Murray than he does against any of the top guys. So when he does have a good run he still end up with a really tough match, even when he's lucky with the draw at like Wimbledon. So having this sort of summer, going straight from the olympics to the hard courts and then injuring himself on the fire hydrant and then losing a tough match against Isner last week.

I hope he bucks up and wins a few tourneys in France and Asia that coming up.
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does ATP have the same rules as WTA - if you are top10 at the end of the year, you can only play two MM tournament?
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There isn't any difference between being ranked 5 or 8. If Tsonga means that he wants to get into top 4, then he is delusional. Either way, he is in the wrong.
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There isn't any difference between being ranked 5 or 8. If Tsonga means that he wants to get into top 4, then he is delusional. Either way, he is in the wrong.
He was asked why he played last week/so much in general, and he said he has to play a lot to keep his ranking up, or else he'll face the top 4 guys before the quarterfinals.
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LOL, yeah right. Ferrer has earned more points than him in slams.
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