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Old 08-30-2012, 11:19 AM   #31
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14 is probably out of reach given that the tournament is already past halfway in terms of matches, but 9 in first round is amazing. you would expect more of such matches when conditions change rapidly and with rain delays but that hasn't really been the case.
Well, we are one ahead of schedule. When the record was set 8 av the 14 came in R1. And as for "past halfway", a slam consists of 127 matches, 65 of which is played. That is 51,18%. Above half, yes, but not by much.
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Tipsy was #7. Thanks for the stats Mr. StatRacket
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Well, we are one ahead of schedule. When the record was set 8 av the 14 came in R1. And as for "past halfway", a slam consists of 127 matches, 65 of which is played. That is 51,18%. Above half, yes, but not by much.
60% of the way (9 of 15) and only 51.2% of matches played. But 0-2 comebacks are more likely in R1 as higher ranked players often take a set or two to get used to the conditions.
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Old 08-30-2012, 11:45 AM   #33
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Cheers My peak days (stat wise) are well and truly over but I keep my ranking up with the occasional burst of form.



60% of the way (9 of 15) and only 51.2% of matches played. But 0-2 comebacks are more likely in R1 as higher ranked players often take a set or two to get used to the conditions.
Do you have a stat showing how many % of 0-2 slam comebacks occur in the 1st round? You seem to have everything else I am very impressed!
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Do you have a stat showing how many % of 0-2 slam comebacks occur in the 1st round? You seem to have everything else I am very impressed!
I got this stat by an old calculation and a quick update... But I'll give you something to chew on with the stats I've got (too busy with uni to update my database right now).

Between 2000 and Washington 2011, there were 6063 best of 5 set matches (excluding Davis Cup). Of these 246 (4.1%) were 0-2 comebacks. 127 (51.6%) of these comebacks occurred in the first round of a Grand Slam despite only 49.6% being first round matches (remember Masters Series finals were best of five for a lot of the period.

Another interesting thing is that LLWWW five set matches are the most common type when it goes to five:



http://statracket.net/?view=articles/setscores2.html
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Really cool info! I was unaware LLWWW was the most common result for a 5-setter. It's not just this week, then. WWLLW is not that far behind, though, so a little early to bet on someone to win after LLWW.

And we can also conclude that the overrepresentation of 0-2 comebacks are not that great that is should prevent a new record being set. I still don't expect one, though. My guess is we'll finish on 12.
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Cheers.

Yeah, chances are we'll 'only' see 11-12 0-2 comebacks (as 2.5 more is the expected value). As an analogy, just because heads comes up 15 of 20 times on a fair coin, we still only expect 10 on average in the next 20 tosses.
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Andujar hopefully cooking up another one.
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I got this stat by an old calculation and a quick update... But I'll give you something to chew on with the stats I've got (too busy with uni to update my database right now).

Between 2000 and Washington 2011, there were 6063 best of 5 set matches (excluding Davis Cup). Of these 246 (4.1%) were 0-2 comebacks. 127 (51.6%) of these comebacks occurred in the first round of a Grand Slam despite only 49.6% being first round matches (remember Masters Series finals were best of five for a lot of the period.

Another interesting thing is that LLWWW five set matches are the most common type when it goes to five:



http://statracket.net/?view=articles/setscores2.html
very interesting, thanks!!
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does the the won/lost % after winning/losing 1st set in the ATP player's profile include slams/davis cup?

do you have the 2 set version: won/lost % after being up/down 2 set at slams/davis cup ?

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andujar to make it 10
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Have a feeling Kolya delivering another
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fuck off andujar. that's what you get when you count on one spaniard
Andujar is not out of it, serving at 5-6 in the 5th.
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that's like he is out already
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Andujaaar noooo, but Fish is on his way to turn out his match vs Nikolay.
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But 0-2 comebacks are more likely in R1 as higher ranked players often take a set or two to get used to the conditions.
which stat states that?
i think that 0-2 comebacks happen mostly in Round 1 because most matches are played in Round 1
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