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Old 08-22-2012, 07:34 PM   #91
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Well all that proves is that he just can't find that extra gear to vault him past the finishing line. For the BIG 4 it's all about winning on the biggest stage. Being a finalist is the equivalent of doing nothing for these incredible athletes. I'm sure a Ferrer or a Berdych would love to have 2 MPs in a GS semifinal or even be a finalist and indeed that would be a great achievement for the likes of them. Not so much for the BIG FOUR.
You can look at it that way. For me it shows Roger is a contender for the title in the US Open given his past performances. And also take into account that the US Open last year was slower due to a supposed painting error. This years it should be faster which would favour ROger.

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Basically we're in agreement. Nole is the stand out favourite. The 2nd favourite is debatable but ultimately does not matter as they will do their usual bendover routine when facing Nole on hard courts. Super Saturday is a major disadvantage for Fed. It effectively kills off his chances of winning the final in the same way he lost the GOLD medal in his semi final vs Del Potro.
This I don't agree with. It will all depend on the semis. Roger's Olympic semis took 4 and a half hours. If Roger plays a 5 setter it won't take more than that.

You seem to be assuming Roger will play 5 sets in the semis. What if Roger plays Ferrer or Tipsarevic or aonther player and wins in 3 sets. Do you still believe Roger wouldn't recuperate for the finals?

When you say "It effectively kills off his chances of winning the final..." it seems oyu're saying Roger has no chance of winning which is of course false. Roger is the second favourite and has a good chance of winning.
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Old 08-22-2012, 07:47 PM   #92
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Fed really should have won the last 8 US Opens, its amazing
Only one thing I'd say. Nadal would have won in 2010 over Fed and would have lost in 2011. So Fed would have had 7 wins and a final, counter-factually speaking ...
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Remind me when the last time Wilander said something correct or at lest relevant?
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No. Neither has Murray, which is why I'd have picked Nole ahead of Murray and Roger...
Novak is ahead of Roger, but Roger is ahead of Andy.
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Remind me when the last time Wilander said something correct or at lest relevant?
Probably during the clay season predicting Rafa to win something, the tennis knowledge this man has to predict that
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Probably during the clay season predicting Rafa to win something, the tennis knowledge this man has to predict that
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Owing to seeding and draw structure, either Federer or Djokovic will have a draw which means they have to defeat only 1 top 3 player to win the US Open. On paper Murray will have to potentially defeat Federer and Djokovic.

Overall Murray most likely has the toughest route to victory.

Whoever has potentially Murray will see their winning chances probably ruined by "Stupid Saturday" and the stupid people who run the US Open.
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You can look at it that way. For me it shows Roger is a contender for the title in the US Open given his past performances. And also take into account that the US Open last year was slower due to a supposed painting error. This years it should be faster which would favour ROger.
Unfortunately not nearly fast enough. Check out Nole's post Cincy final comments. NY is considerably slower than Cincy which suits his game to a T.

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This I don't agree with. It will all depend on the semis. Roger's Olympic semis took 4 and a half hours. If Roger plays a 5 setter it won't take more than that.

You seem to be assuming Roger will play 5 sets in the semis. What if Roger plays Ferrer or Tipsarevic or aonther player and wins in 3 sets. Do you still believe Roger wouldn't recuperate for the finals?

When you say "It effectively kills off his chances of winning the final..." it seems oyu're saying Roger has no chance of winning which is of course false. Roger is the second favourite and has a good chance of winning.
You should hope Fed does not play someone like Julien Benneteau in the semis because that would definitely be decided on a 5th set tie break effectively killing off his chances in the final. Yes he does have a chance in the final. Anybody who makes it that far has a chance. Their opponent could get injured, or in a fit of madness, injure someone during the match a la Nalbandian and default the match. Don't know if that has ever happened in a GS final match but I suppose it is possible.
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Probably during the clay season predicting Rafa to win something, the tennis knowledge this man has to predict that
Too good

As much as I respect Wilander-player I am bored with him as commentator and predictor. IMO, he is the worst analyst in tennis among all.
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Remind me when the last time Wilander said something correct or at lest relevant?
let's just say I would express grave concern if wilander called for the sun rising in the east.
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Unfortunately not nearly fast enough. Check out Nole's post Cincy final comments. NY is considerably slower than Cincy which suits his game to a T.
Roger is playing better than in 2011, Djokovic is playing worse than in 2011, US Open surface in 2012 faster than in 2011. Last year djokovic wonm in 5 after saving MPs.... Do the math.

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You should hope Fed does not play someone like Julien Benneteau in the semis because that would definitely be decided on a 5th set tie break effectively killing off his chances in the final. Yes he does have a chance in the final. Anybody who makes it that far has a chance. Their opponent could get injured, or in a fit of madness, injure someone during the match a la Nalbandian and default the match. Don't know if that has ever happened in a GS final match but I suppose it is possible.
Nice trolling.

This I don't need to respond to.
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You should hope Fed does not play someone like Julien Benneteau in the semis because that would definitely be decided on a 5th set tie break effectively killing off his chances in the final. Yes he does have a chance in the final.
You should hope Murray doesn't meet someone like Stanislaus Wawrinka before the QFs -- oh wait....
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You should hope Murray doesn't meet someone like Stanislaus Wawrinka before the QFs -- oh wait....
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Andy is going to beat Roger in the Semi and Nole in the Final
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