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Old 08-23-2012, 10:26 AM   #136
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You think it is unlikely Murray will make the semis? Who are all these people exactly who have a good chance of beating him before them?

All of the top 3 seeds will make the semis.
And that's coming from someone who consider it impossible for Chardy to break Mugray's serve . Classic.
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Old 08-23-2012, 10:54 AM   #137
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You think it is unlikely Murray will make the semis? Who are all these people exactly who have a good chance of beating him before them?

All of the top 3 seeds will make the semis.
Considering he's been knocked out in the 3rd and 4th rounds in the last 4 years, while at AO and Wimbledon he's made 3 and 4 semis respectively, it's not that crazy a prediction. For some reason he seems able to lose early here more than any other GS. Even at the French he hasn't gone out before the 4th round in the last 4 years.
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Old 08-23-2012, 11:47 AM   #138
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That was 2 years ago though. It's hardly relevant now. Tennis changes all the time.
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Old 08-23-2012, 12:30 PM   #139
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And that's coming from someone who consider it impossible for Chardy to break Mugray's serve . Classic.
If Murray served well he would not have got Broken.
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If Murray served well he would not have got Broken.
If he serves well, he never gets broken. But that's not how tennis works now is it?
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If he serves well, he never gets broken. But that's not how tennis works now is it?
I did not anticipate a bad serving day after the form it was in.
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If Murray served well he would not have got Broken.
murray said that early 2009...
he said he would be winning grand slams and be #1 by the end of the year if he was breaking 40% of the time while being broken 13% of the time...
see where he is now
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murray said that early 2009...
he said he would be winning grand slams and be #1 by the end of the year if he was breaking 40% of the time while being broken 13% of the time...
see where he is now
He's breaking 32% and being broken 19%
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Latest odds:

1. Djokovic- 2.74
2. Federer- 3.7
3. Murray- 4.4
4. Del Potro- 14
5. Tsonga- 46
6. Ferrer- 70
7. Raonic- 85
8. Isner- 90
very tempted to put some money down here

shame im not a betting man
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If Murray served well he would not have got Broken.


Yes, if Murray had served well enough to not get broken chances are he wouldn't have get broken.
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so, who´s a Trollander and Ivanisemug now?
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so, who´s a Trollander and Ivanisemug now?
indeed

though Mats looked like he was on crack last night

I think psyched Djoker out with crazy eyes in the pre match interview
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Lool, I had forgotten about this .
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Mats and Goran knows their tennis. I also hold Murray as top favourite to win (for the first time in a slam). If you think about it he's a bad matchup for old Fed. Murray got the defense, he got the physicality and he got a MUCH BETTER SERVE than Nadal. In the Olympics F he also proved he got the tactics right. He knows he can grind it on important points like BPs and he knows his backhand is much more solid and less error-prone so if he plays solid and with power he gets a lot of "gifts".

Murray has a pretty decent record vs Fed on HC. It's not like he's an overwhelming favourite over Federer but if they meet I'd probably give a 55-45 advantage to Murray

So this is what I posted before the tournament. I also knew my stuff
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