View Poll Results: Who will win the 2012 year-end H2H?
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Djokovic will take the lead
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Federer will claim his trophy
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They will end in a draw, for the first time
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I don't know. But this should be an official ATP award, it's amazing.
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10-20-2012, 07:57 PM
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#781
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Re: Endless Djokovic/Federer Debates (Who will end up with the better clay career)
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Originally Posted by atennisfan
Djokovic at his super absolute peak lost in 2011 against 30-yo, over the hill Federer. That should tell you much who's better in clay.
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Non-peak Djoker corrected this faux-pas one year later.
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10-20-2012, 07:58 PM
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#782
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Re: Endless Djokovic/Federer Debates (Who will end up with the better clay career)
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Originally Posted by Matt01
Non-peak Djoker corrected this faux-pas one year later.
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10-20-2012, 08:01 PM
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Re: Endless Djokovic/Federer Debates (Who will end up with the better clay career)
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Originally Posted by Looner
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10-20-2012, 08:47 PM
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Re: Endless Djokovic/Federer Debates (Who will end up with the better clay career)
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10-20-2012, 08:57 PM
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Re: Endless Djokovic/Federer Debates (Who will end up with the better clay career)
Federer waved the finger because he begged for another choker to hand him another Slam. Too bad elderly Goderer wasn't old enough to get sympathy from most people on Earth.
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10-20-2012, 09:18 PM
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Re: Endless Djokovic/Federer Debates (Who will end up with the better clay career)
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10-20-2012, 09:31 PM
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Re: Endless Djokovic/Federer Debates (Who will end up with the better clay career)
well, Nole won 3 masters on clay but not RG. He needs to win RG. now, because Rafa is God on clay, and Nole won twice against him on clay, Madrid and Rome, Nole is better than Fed. too lazy to look at stats, but did Fed ever win on clay against Rafa except when Rafa played half dead in Hamburg?
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10-20-2012, 09:42 PM
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Re: Endless Djokovic/Federer Debates (Who will end up with the better clay career)
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Originally Posted by Alex999
well, Nole won 3 masters on clay but not RG. He needs to win RG. now, because Rafa is God on clay, and Nole won twice against him on clay, Madrid and Rome, Nole is better than Fed. too lazy to look at stats, but did Fed ever win on clay against Rafa except when Rafa played half dead in Hamburg?
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Federer beat Nadal in Madrid 2009 as well. And Federer certainly would have won more in 2005-07 if 2011-Nadal had shown up. |
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10-20-2012, 09:47 PM
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Re: Endless Djokovic/Federer Debates (Who will end up with the better clay career)
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Originally Posted by Litotes
Federer beat Nadal in Madrid 2009 as well. And Federer certainly would have won more in 2005-07 if 2011-Nadal had shown up.
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Lovely reasoning.
Oh yeah, and thankfully Nadal wasn't dead in Madrid 09 after playing the longest three set match EVER back then the day before
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10-20-2012, 09:50 PM
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Re: Endless Djokovic/Federer Debates (Who will end up with the better clay career)
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Originally Posted by Litotes
Federer beat Nadal in Madrid 2009 as well. And Federer certainly would have won more in 2005-07 if 2011-Nadal had shown up.
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lol, that's poor, 2011 Nadal would have beat Roger on clay anyway, oh wait, he did. 2011 Nole was just a bad match up for Nadal and he was in his head.
There's not a lot to say about this subject, to have a better resume than Roger on clay, Nole needs to win 2 RG, it doesn't matter if he beats Nadal in his way, Roger never did. |
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10-20-2012, 09:51 PM
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Re: Endless Djokovic/Federer Debates (Who will end up with the better clay career)
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Originally Posted by Alex999
well, Nole won 3 masters on clay but not RG. He needs to win RG. now, because Rafa is God on clay, and Nole won twice against him on clay, Madrid and Rome, Nole is better than Fed. too lazy to look at stats, but did Fed ever win on clay against Rafa except when Rafa played half dead in Hamburg?
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Nadal was fine in Hamburg, it was Madrid where he was out for the count.
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10-20-2012, 11:29 PM
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Re: Endless Djokovic/Federer Debates (Who will end up with the better clay career)
At least Djoker can win 5 setters vs. Davis Cup legends John Isner and Mario Ancic on clay.
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10-20-2012, 11:31 PM
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Re: Endless Djokovic/Federer Debates (Who will end up with the better clay career)
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Originally Posted by GSMnadal
Lovely reasoning.
Oh yeah, and thankfully Nadal wasn't dead in Madrid 09 after playing the longest three set match EVER back then the day before
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Nadull's physical style is his own fault. Remind me how many slams he'd have won if he didn't run like a headless chicken? Yup, that's right. Zero.
PS Nadull was fine both in Hamburg and in Madrid. Fed hardly left him a chance to run in that Madrid final. Such an amazing #1 he is.
Last edited by Looner : 10-20-2012 at 11:51 PM.
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10-20-2012, 11:50 PM
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Re: Endless Djokovic/Federer Debates (Who will end up with the better clay career)
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Originally Posted by Alex999
well, Nole won 3 masters on clay but not RG. He needs to win RG. now, because Rafa is God on clay, and Nole won twice against him on clay, Madrid and Rome, Nole is better than Fed. too lazy to look at stats, but did Fed ever win on clay against Rafa except when Rafa played half dead in Hamburg?
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well , rafa was ok in hamburg.
federer in rome 2006 for example and in other matches forced to the limits the best nadal on clay , and was when the masters were played with finals in 5 sets like rome 2006 , nole can defeat that nadal in 5 sets on clay??????? in all his 5 sets matches in clay nole only could won a set , and federer was capable to bagel that nadal on clay in some sets. |
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10-20-2012, 11:52 PM
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Re: Endless Djokovic/Federer Debates (Who will end up with the better clay career)
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Originally Posted by Looner
Nadull's physical style is his own fault. Remind me how many slams he'd have won if he didn't run like a headless chicken? Yup, that's right. Zero.
PS Nadull was fine both in Hamburg and in Madrid. Fed hardly left him a chance to run in that Madrid final. Such an amazing #1 he is.
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come on he was fucked up in Madrid...... |
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