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View Poll Results: Who will win the 2012 year-end H2H?

Djokovic will take the lead 31 50.82%
Federer will claim his trophy 25 40.98%
They will end in a draw, for the first time 1 1.64%
I don't know. But this should be an official ATP award, it's amazing. 4 6.56%
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Old 10-19-2012, 09:09 PM   #706
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Djokovic isn't better on anything. Hope this helps.
Pretty much. Back in January 2007 when Federer was Djokovic's current age, 25 years and 5 months old, he had won 10 slams already. Djokovic only has 5 slams at the same age.
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Old 10-19-2012, 09:18 PM   #707
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LOL who cares if he had to face Nadal.You tard....and who did Novak face?Me and you?
This made me laugh so hard Right now, ANYONE who wants to win a big clay title has to go through Nadal. Don't know why Novak was being excluded

But on the topic of the better clay career: like someone said, the question cannot be reasonably asked until Novak wins at least 1 RG. And even then, it would still be Fed But if Novak won 2, then the debate would be over.
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If you ask Rafa, I'm sure he'll say he's more threatened by Federer than Djokovic, on any surface.
Toni wouldn`t agree.
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This made me laugh so hard Right now, ANYONE who wants to win a big clay title has to go through Nadal. Don't know why Novak was being excluded

But on the topic of the better clay career: like someone said, the question cannot be reasonably asked until Novak wins at least 1 RG. And even then, it would still be Fed But if Novak won 2, then the debate would be over.
Not if he wins two from the next three and Federer wins the third. Which isn't that unrealistic, since we're assuming a Nadal decline. With no Nadal decline, Djokovic isn't getting to two RG titles anytime soon.
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Well yeah. Who ever has the most RGs is the clear winner.
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Old 10-19-2012, 09:30 PM   #711
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Fed trolls would be too bitter to think Djoker's superior even if Djoker won French Open without tons of luck like Federer's '09 FO.
Unlike Federina, Djoker had to change his health decisions. He felt the need to play Davis Cup and travel
to different charity events. He didn't have time to
serve well enough on clay;
he needed to be much-improved on all surfaces.
Federer had a lot time to rest since 2004.
He could ignore any Davis Cup competition because the ITF, cowardly Swiss and media people needed to make money off his "hero goat" propaganda.

Clay was Nadal's ideal surface, nowhere near Djoker's favorite.
Of course, if you play a lot on clay, as Nadal does, you'll feel more uncomfortable & unbalanced on hardcourt in your service games.
Djoker's still improving in Slams.
Federer and Nadal are the same for 6 years on hardcourt & grass.
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Fed trolls would be too bitter to think Djoker's superior even if Djoker won French Open without tons of luck like Federer's '09 FO.
Unlike Federina, Djoker had to change his health decisions. He felt the need to play Davis Cup and travel
to different charity events. He didn't have time to
serve well enough on clay;
he needed to be much-improved on all surfaces.
Federer had a lot time to rest since 2004.
He could ignore any Davis Cup competition because the ITF, cowardly Swiss and media people needed to make money off his "hero goat" propaganda.

Clay was Nadal's ideal surface, nowhere near Djoker's favorite.
Of course, if you play a lot on clay, as Nadal does, you'll feel more uncomfortable & unbalanced on hardcourt in your service games.
Djoker's still improving in Slams.
Federer and Nadal are the same for 6 years on hardcourt & grass.
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Pretty much. Back in January 2007 when Federer was Djokovic's current age, 25 years and 5 months old, he had won 10 slams already. Djokovic only has 5 slams at the same age.
stop comparing people to Federer are you that stupid
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Fed trolls would be too bitter to think Djoker's superior even if Djoker won French Open without tons of luck like Federer's '09 FO.
Unlike Federina, Djoker had to change his health decisions. He felt the need to play Davis Cup and travel
to different charity events. He didn't have time to
serve well enough on clay;
he needed to be much-improved on all surfaces.
Federer had a lot time to rest since 2004.
He could ignore any Davis Cup competition because the ITF, cowardly Swiss and media people needed to make money off his "hero goat" propaganda.

Clay was Nadal's ideal surface, nowhere near Djoker's favorite.
Of course, if you play a lot on clay, as Nadal does, you'll feel more uncomfortable & unbalanced on hardcourt in your service games.
Djoker's still improving in Slams.
Federer and Nadal are the same for 6 years on hardcourt & grass.

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Pretty much. Back in January 2007 when Federer was Djokovic's current age, 25 years and 5 months old, he had won 10 slams already. Djokovic only has 5 slams at the same age.
Does world evolve around Olderer? For you it is. Who the hell cares how many slams Noserer had when he was 25.
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oh guys calm it down. we all know this is trolling thread, comparing Fed and Nole in any aspect is like comparing bazuka and water pistol
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federer on clay in his best year (2006):

- French Open final (lost to nadal), Final of Rome Masters (lost to nadal), Final of Monte Carlo Masters (lost to nadal), did not play Hamburg


djokovic on clay in his best year (2011):

- French Open Semi final (lost to federer), Won Rome Masters (bt. nadal), Won Madrid Masters (bt. nadal), did not play Monte Carlo
Case closed. Djoko wins.
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If you ask Rafa, I'm sure he'll say he's more threatened by Federer than Djokovic, on any surface.
Then I assume you didn't read Rafa's biography where he clearly expresses who is his true rival (and that was before 2011). I thought you were a Rafa fan.
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Novak fans can't complain about RG 09 cause Djoker had his chance to win it if he hadn't managed to mug out to Kohli he had a very good draw and a choking Fed awaiting in the SF, he threw a big chance down the toilet in that one.

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Then I assume you didn't read Rafa's biography where he clearly expresses who is his true rival (and that was before 2011). I thought you were a Rafa fan.
No one knows what he is. He hates glory hunters but when Rosol beat Nadal he claimed only top players should be in slam semis/finals.
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