[Filo V.]

Again, until Djokovic wins a RG title and/or beats Nadal at RG, this question cannot be reasonably asked.

[EliSter]

Originally Posted by GOATsol

Over the course of his career, he had to battle the clay number 1. He did not have to battle the clay #1 to win his RG title.
Read the post again you mug.

Excatly. And he never will, he won 1 fluke RG and Fedtards call him top 2-3 CCs ?

Originally Posted by Lleyton_

Djokovic isn't better on anything. Hope this helps.

5 > 1. Hope this helps.

Originally Posted by Tag

federer on clay in his best year (2006):

- French Open final (lost to nadal), Final of Rome Masters (lost to nadal), Final of Monte Carlo Masters (lost to nadal), did not play Hamburg

djokovic on clay in his best year (2011):

- French Open Semi final (lost to federer), Won Rome Masters (bt. nadal), Won Madrid Masters (bt. nadal), did not play Monte Carlo

Facts are facts.

Originally Posted by GOATsol

Still crying about the bagel Olderer gave to your hero? Imagine what Primerer would have done to him.

Oh yes we have sleepless nights about that Cincy final I bet that USO 2010 and 2011 still stings

[samanosuke]

Still nothing to debate about, deluding about maybe

[samanosuke]

Only thing better than deluded tard is deluded tard trying to be reasonable

[barbadosan]

Originally Posted by EliSter

Oh yes we have sleepless nights about that Cincy final I bet that USO 2010 and 2011 still stings

Mightily assuaged by visions of Wimby 2012 and five USO's on the trot, thank you for asking

[EliSter]

Originally Posted by barbadosan

Mightily assuaged by visions of Wimby 2012 and five USO's on the trot, thank you for asking

The arogance Fedarer and Fedtards have is abnormal and some distant results like winning last USO 5 years to come cannot hold for much. You trive of meaningless records and attention. And im very sure that 2011 still makes some Fedtards cry before the bed.

[TBkeeper]

Nadal has THE GOAT Clay career.
next.

[samanosuke]

Originally Posted by EliSter

The arogance Fedarer and Fedtards have is abnormal and some distant results like winning last USO 5 years to come cannot hold for much. You trive of meaningless records and attention. And im very sure that 2011 still makes some Fedtards cry before the bed.

mate, my english sucks big time but if i got this one right your logic sucks even more

[Looner]

Originally Posted by hipolymer

6-1, 6-3, 6-0

You may need to bring in results from matches Fed played against a dozen more players if you'd like to try and make a reasonable case for why he is not a better clay courter.

PS Roger won more clay points in 2009 than in 2006. See what I did there?

[rocketassist]

Federer is ahead atm but might not stay there as Djoker will get chances to snatch RG later on IMO.

[The Bulldog]

It's close. Djoker's 2011 early clay form was great, but is it enough to beat Roger's overall consistency and excellence on the surface. Not right now, but things could change.

[Lleyton_]

Originally Posted by Tag

federer on clay in his best year (2006):

- French Open final (lost to nadal), Final of Rome Masters (lost to nadal), Final of Monte Carlo Masters (lost to nadal), did not play Hamburg


djokovic on clay in his best year (2011):

- French Open Semi final (lost to federer), Won Rome Masters (bt. nadal), Won Madrid Masters (bt. nadal), did not play Monte Carlo

Madrid = irrelevant (and best-of-3), Rome = impressive but still best-of-3. Djoko has the same # of wins as Olderer in best of 5 set matches vs Claydal. Zero.

Djokovic - 1 set won in 5 bo5 matches
Olderer - 7 sets won in 7 bo5 matches

[Looner]

Originally Posted by Lleyton_

Madrid = irrelevant (and best-of-3), Rome = impressive but still best-of-3. Djoko has the same # of wins as Olderer in best of 5 set matches vs Claydal. Zero.

Djokovic - 1 set won in 5 bo5 matches
Olderer - 7 sets won in 7 bo5 matches

Tells you all you need to know.

[barbadosan]

Originally Posted by EliSter

The arogance Fedarer and Fedtards have is abnormal and some distant results like winning last USO 5 years to come cannot hold for much. You trive of meaningless records and attention. And im very sure that 2011 still makes some Fedtards cry before the bed.

This belief is obviously critical to your well-being, so continue smartly.

As for your strange contention that "distant results cannot hold (sic) for much - just what are you planning to do? Steal into the USO premises and expunge Fed's name from the title board? burn all the books that reference his wins? or develop a universal amnesia virus that will make every tennis follower forget what actually happened?

[Filo V.]

If you ask Rafa, I'm sure he'll say he's more threatened by Federer than Djokovic, on any surface.