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View Poll Results: Who will win the 2012 year-end H2H?

Djokovic will take the lead 31 50.82%
Federer will claim his trophy 25 40.98%
They will end in a draw, for the first time 1 1.64%
I don't know. But this should be an official ATP award, it's amazing. 4 6.56%
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Old 10-19-2012, 03:36 PM   #676
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Federer family could afford to buy free love for doing little on clay between 2000-2005.
He knew he had easy draws and he avoided Davis Cup ties to rest for the clay season.

Djokovic received disrespect & hostility from bad clay players until he beat Nadal and Federer. Unlike Federer, he didn't just play a bare minimum of difficult tournaments to save his health & reputation.
He wouldn't lose easily to Gulbis, Hewitt, Melzer, Stepanek, Volandri, Rafter and injured Kuerten.
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Old 10-19-2012, 06:02 PM   #677
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Federer family could afford to buy free love for doing little on clay between 2000-2005.
He knew he had easy draws and he avoided Davis Cup ties to rest for the clay season.

Djokovic received disrespect & hostility from bad clay players until he beat Nadal and Federer. Unlike Federer, he didn't just play a bare minimum of difficult tournaments to save his health & reputation.
He wouldn't lose easily to Gulbis, Hewitt, Melzer, Stepanek, Volandri, Rafter and injured Kuerten.
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Old 10-19-2012, 07:54 PM   #678
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Federer family could afford to buy free love for doing little on clay between 2000-2005.
He knew he had easy draws and he avoided Davis Cup ties to rest for the clay season.

Djokovic received disrespect & hostility from bad clay players until he beat Nadal and Federer. Unlike Federer, he didn't just play a bare minimum of difficult tournaments to save his health & reputation.
He wouldn't lose easily to Gulbis, Hewitt, Melzer, Stepanek, Volandri, Rafter and injured Kuerten.
???

he wouldn`t lose????

jajajajajaja , is the same djokovic that lost in roland garros 2010 with melzer after winning the first two sets???? jajaja.

federer only lost with djokovic , soderling , kuerten and nadal.

not like garbage like melzer in roland garros
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Federer, as he had to battle IMO best clay-courter of all time and still managed to win some tournaments and 1 RG.
lol, it's not like he won much against the best clay-courter of all time. By the way, Djokovic in 2011 dominated the clay beast, that's something Federer was NEVER able to do. If Nole wins 2 RG I think that he'll be regarded as better than Federer in this particular surface. I don't see it happening, but a man can dream lol

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Peak vs. peak on clay, Nole takes this I think. But so far (and comparing where Fed was at at the same age as Nole is now) then it's Federer.
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Federer, as he had to battle IMO best clay-courter of all time and still managed to win some tournaments and 1 RG.
He had to battle the clay number 1 to win RG? Fedtards must live in some other dimension not frequented by actual humans.
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He had to battle the clay number 1 to win RG? Fedtards must live in some other dimension not frequented by actual humans.
Over the course of his career, he had to battle the clay number 1. He did not have to battle the clay #1 to win his RG title.
Read the post again you mug.
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Peak vs. peak on clay, Nole takes this I think. But so far (and comparing where Fed was at at the same age as Nole is now) then it's Federer.
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Djokovic isn't better on anything. Hope this helps.
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Peak vs. peak on clay, Nole takes this I think. But so far (and comparing where Fed was at at the same age as Nole is now) then it's Federer.
Didn`t Olderer beat Peakovic on clay once? It seems I have bad memory nowadays.
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Djokovic isn't better on anything. Hope this helps.
Oh he's better on many things, believe me.
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federer on clay in his best year (2006):

- French Open final (lost to nadal), Final of Rome Masters (lost to nadal), Final of Monte Carlo Masters (lost to nadal), did not play Hamburg


djokovic on clay in his best year (2011):

- French Open Semi final (lost to federer), Won Rome Masters (bt. nadal), Won Madrid Masters (bt. nadal), did not play Monte Carlo
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Djokovic isn't better on anything. Hope this helps.
Yup. The only things a peak Djoko will take against peak Fed on any surface (bar slow HCs) are bagels and breadsticks.
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Over the course of his career, he had to battle the clay number 1. He did not have to battle the clay #1 to win his RG title.
Read the post again you mug.
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Still crying about the bagel Olderer gave to your hero? Imagine what Primerer would have done to him.
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