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Old 08-05-2012, 05:09 PM   #16
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I personally rank Olympics very highly, right after the four slams. That is, if you have none of these titles (as Murray didn't), you would rather win a slam, then the Olympics, then everythig else.

But for Federer, this was one significant title missing for his collection. I would trade his Wimbledon for this one, so I am so disappointed with his loss today.

I hope Rio 2016 is on hardcourts and Federer can prepare specifically for that event and not play too much before the Olympics.
No way. If I were him, I would never think about that. Not sure if I would even imagine to swap my gold medal in doubles for singles gold here.

Olympics is indeed special in its own way even without ranking points. There, any medal in any category counts just the same, because you're playing for national pride also. Federer is not known to be doubles specialist, but he took that gold medal in Beijing 2008 against Bryan Bros and Paes/Bhupathi, it's a great achievement and I would definitely treasure it.

I'm disappointed after such a big loss today, but it's crazy to swap a grand slam with Olympic Gold Medal. A very bad deal.

About Rio, I feel it's more possible to happen that he might reach Hingis again to consider playing mixed doubles there. But I'm not sure if this is realistic... I would like to see them playing together He might even skip singles to play mens doubles also.

Remember, any category counts and is equally important.
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Old 08-05-2012, 09:06 PM   #17
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I personally rank Olympics very highly, right after the four slams. That is, if you have none of these titles (as Murray didn't), you would rather win a slam, then the Olympics, then everythig else.

But for Federer, this was one significant title missing for his collection. I would trade his Wimbledon for this one, so I am so disappointed with his loss today.

I hope Rio 2016 is on hardcourts and Federer can prepare specifically for that event and not play too much before the Olympics.
Not at all, imagine the inverse scenario. Federer would be standing at 16 slams still, not getting the number one ranking, still trailing Sampras in the # of Titles at Wimbledon trading Wimbledon with the Olimpics results.

Federer would be still slamless this year no less, sure the Olimpic gold is great, and they were great in 2008 doubles when he won, but it was winning an important event like the Usopen that really showed he was still there, the OG will never be up to the par to the Slams, and not even to the Masters Cup.

Federer got his medal in singles (already gold in doubles), but said that he was already exhausted mentally after the Del Potro match, it was just simply enough for him. I am sure he is pleased with the outcome.
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Old 08-05-2012, 09:17 PM   #18
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I personally rank Olympics very highly, right after the four slams. That is, if you have none of these titles (as Murray didn't), you would rather win a slam, then the Olympics, then everythig else.

But for Federer, this was one significant title missing for his collection. I would trade his Wimbledon for this one, so I am so disappointed with his loss today.

I hope Rio 2016 is on hardcourts and Federer can prepare specifically for that event and not play too much before the Olympics.
Trading his Wimbledon (hence the no.1 record), are you fucking crazy?
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Old 08-05-2012, 09:18 PM   #19
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Olympics is shit! It is a masters event that no one cares about. These people have to pretend they care about it. They cry here or there because let's face it, if you don't support your country, you become a villain.
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Olympics is a glorified masters level event to me, its important in the fact a gold medal really matters to you and your country but in tennis its just not important in the grant scheme of things. I dont think it should be worth any atp ranking points either.
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This olympics was much more dramatic than any before IMO.

I'm sure Fed wanted this one badly, but he's been playing so much and going deep for about a year.
It was just too much physically and mentally, the whole house came crashing down on him today.
There was just nothing left, and Murray played a very motivated match.
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Yes, Murray is an awful ambassador for the sport because he whines about out-of-competition drug testing and called Odesnik a 'snitch' for allegedly giving 'substantial assistance' to anti-doping authorities.

Bad manners too!
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Yes, Murray is an awful ambassador for the sport because he whines about out-of-competition drug testing and called Odesnik a 'snitch' for allegedly giving 'substantial assistance' to anti-doping authorities.

Bad manners too!
Don't worry. Olympics means nothing. Murray won the only thing he could possibly win. He is not going to win anything but masters. That's what he is. A masters specialist. If this event was 3 out of 5 from the get go, Murray would not win it.
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Old 08-05-2012, 11:26 PM   #24
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Don't worry. Olympics means nothing. Murray won the only thing he could possibly win. He is not going to win anything but masters. That's what he is. A masters specialist. If this event was 3 out of 5 from the get go, Murray would not win it.
Yes, my thoughts exactly. This was bo3 and Murray has shown he can win those against Fed but as we all saw at WIM, bo5 is a different animal, hence, Murray's 0-4.

It's a nice ornament to keep in your trophy case and to celebrate but just having that and no GS is a no-brainer for tennis players.
Mecir, Dementieva, Rosset, Massu all have that one OG.

I consider Olympics to be like Davis Cup, just nice to have.
YEC is much more important IMHO.
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Yes, Murray is an awful ambassador for the sport because he whines about out-of-competition drug testing and called Odesnik a 'snitch' for allegedly giving 'substantial assistance' to anti-doping authorities.

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"You want to make sure that people who are fined and suspended aren't let off because they are telling on other players," the Times quoted Andy Murray, the No. 1-ranked player from Great Britain as saying. "That is snitching."
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But for Federer, this was one significant title missing for his collection. I would trade his Wimbledon for this one, so I am so disappointed with his loss today.
No, IMHO, Federer wouldn't trade his most recent Wimbledon for an Olympic singles gold. Firstly, Wimbledon is a more prestigious title in tennis. Secondly, it offers more points. Thirdly, his most recent Wimbledon tied him with most ever. Yes, the singles gold is the only significant title missing from his collection but Federer knows the importance of his most recent Wimbledon title; and it's most historic than that of an Olympic gold.
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They cry here or there because let's face it, if you don't support your country, you become a villain.
This part especially. We're social creatures by nature (evolutionary biology). If you don't profess to love your fellow primates, you must be some kind of abomination. The Olympics have become simply the peaceful expression of tribalism and nationalism. They vaguely resemble the classical Olympics in ancient Greece in that sports and athletics become the safer conduit for the more sordid urges of city-states, which are namely xenophobia, greed and aggression. There were artistic events too of course, not just javelins and wrestling (simulations of certain wartime skills) and so forth but it was all a rehearsal for their repressed wartime fantasies and hostile feelings toward one another. Which is fine, I guess better that than actual bloodshed. But let's not talk about the Olympics as if it's about the big, happy brotherhood of man. It is about tribal competition, sectarianism, the symbolic yet safer expression of more sinister, darker impulses in man.

Now do we expect these athletes to say something other than how much they love the Motherland and still keep their public image intact? It would be suicide to do otherwise. So of course they'll wax poetically about how much they love their nations, with what zeal they are pursuing these games on behalf of the Fatherland, etc, this is all expected from the rest of the herd. But let's not be naive about their words...
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i'm beginning to wonder how Federer achieved so much, in last two years he has become such a passive player (or maybe others are more aggressive)
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Fed tards are so bitter they are a joke. Fed himself has said many times how important the Olympics are to him.
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Fed tards are so bitter they are a joke. Fed himself has said many times how important the Olympics are to him.
You are so uniformed, it's sad. Fed also said he overhyped the event today. So, there.
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