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07-26-2012, 01:07 PM
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Dunning–Kruger effect
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Hypothesis
The hypothesized phenomenon was tested in a series of experiments performed by Justin Kruger and David Dunning, both then of Cornell University.[2][5] Kruger and Dunning noted earlier studies suggesting that ignorance of standards of performance is behind a great deal of incompetence. This pattern was seen in studies of skills as diverse as reading comprehension, operating a motor vehicle, and playing chess or tennis.
Kruger and Dunning proposed that, for a given skill, incompetent people will:
1. tend to overestimate their own level of skill;
2. fail to recognize genuine skill in others;
3. fail to recognize the extremity of their inadequacy;
4. recognize and acknowledge their own previous lack of skill, if they are exposed to training for that skill
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“There’s so many athletes, tennis players around the world,” he continued, trying to put his life into some kind of perspective, “they want to be the best in what they do. They want to succeed. Many of them, they don’t succeed in the end. I’m fortunate to have this opportunity and succeed.”
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07-26-2012, 01:57 PM
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Re: Dunning–Kruger effect
that's why i'm here. i'm here to make people go from points 1,2 and 3 to 4. it's a long proccess but someone's gotta do it
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Nole will lose this I can see it.........disgusting mug,choker,loser I am ashamed to be half Serb
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07-26-2012, 02:12 PM
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Re: Dunning–Kruger effect
They are not willing to acknowledge the drive shown by the so called "incompetent people" to succeed in those events. That Drive may cause them to ignore the geniune skill in others along with the Obvious will to succeed in that skill.
Totally Jobless Scientists, In my Opinion.
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07-26-2012, 02:55 PM
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Re: Dunning–Kruger effect
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Originally Posted by Shinoj
They are not willing to acknowledge the drive shown by the so called "incompetent people" to succeed in those events. That Drive may cause them to ignore the geniune skill in others along with the Obvious will to succeed in that skill.
Totally Jobless Scientists, In my Opinion.
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Not really... to me sounds like a collective diagnose for MTF, and it's uncanny how accurate it is 
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“There’s so many athletes, tennis players around the world,” he continued, trying to put his life into some kind of perspective, “they want to be the best in what they do. They want to succeed. Many of them, they don’t succeed in the end. I’m fortunate to have this opportunity and succeed.”
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07-26-2012, 03:02 PM
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Re: Dunning–Kruger effect
This is pretty much accurate for any person who has ever talked about something as if an expert when said person has little to no experience in said field.
Basically truth for anything discussed on the internet, really.
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Johnny blurs the line between grandeur and grandiose
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07-26-2012, 04:02 PM
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Re: Dunning–Kruger effect
Good find Miro. Describes the armchair experts at MTF to a T. 
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