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Old 07-25-2012, 01:24 AM   #31
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Default Re: Clay Death Permaban: Consider rescinding please.

Well, the mods don't seem to care what the people think. Or even care enough to respond.

Clay Death kind of annoyed me, but this banning is wrong. And yes, he was an asset to this site.

I think I'll join Clay Death in permaban, by deleting my account. I'll wait until morning to see if the mods ever acknowledged this thread.
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Wow, a lot of love for CD here. I don't share it. To me he was one of the biggest attention whores on the site and before you say anything, no, I'm not bitter. I just want to share my own perspective on this.

Was he a good man?
If he was, he didn't show it. Inventing insulting nicknames for people, always talking as if he owned the place... how quickly people forget. (Btw, I was no fan of Glenn either.)

Was CD a forum icon?
Maybe - which really says something about the quality of this forum.

I will be honest now. I always found CD to be an annoying poster. Anyone wondering why can just go back and check for example all the shit he pulled during the ACC 2011 and prior to it. The fact is, you don't come as close to winning the ACC as he did (lost the final by like 3 votes) if you are in fact a good poster. That just doesn't happen.

Now, CD seemed to calm down a bit in 2012. And he was never as unbearable as SdG. But saying stuff like "he contributed to this forum"? Honestly? In a couple of years I personally will remember him as someone who entered buckloads of threads with the sole purpose of making them about himself.

Now go ahead and throw shit at me if you want. I only wanted to share my viewpoint.
+1, for most of your points.

What I witnessed mostly is that CD happened to be a 'kind' poster, just as long as you agreed with his - sorry to say so - ridiculous assessments of tennis. As soon as you appeared to exploit the guts to disagree with him, it was just "piss off" or other 'fine' words like that (I've just expressed it 'kindly', here) from him.

Let alone if you had the guts to go against Mr. CD in his worship about his 'Clay Warrior'-delusion, even the more when you are in fact a Nadal fan, and just cannot help to see the guy (being a fantastic tennis player) being connected to genuine atrocities like 'war', 'battle', and 'death', all the time. Which disgusts me.
Which makes me shiver with horror.

Add to all this his belief that a Fedal-fan is per definition a 'hyprocrite' - yes. so does it hurt to be able to acknowledge a players' main rival's accomplishments, eh? - and well, there's my ultimate conclusion -

CD

PS: for clarity, I have had NOTHING to do with CD's ban. I don't even know what happened, so please leave me out of your bashing accusations, thanks.
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Default Re: Clay Death Permaban: Consider rescinding please.

Like The Bulldog, I haven't been around for long either. I tend to look at other peoples' posts more than I post myself. But being someone who has never even talked to CD, he is one of the few posters I've seen who delivers great content. His posts always stand out to me. I'm fine with anything as long as he gets brought back
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Please bring Clay Death back to life. Resurrect him like Lazarus. He knew shit about tennis but he was what he was - a great conductor of GM threads, maybe the best emcee this forum has seen. GM was his life, and his assassin, HkZ himself confessed to CD's ability to craft 40+ tedious repetitive posts per day. That's telling something. So let him enjoy a 3 month sentence, and well deserved rest but thereafter, please bring him back.

MTF's best PERMACLOWN: CD
Do not twist my words bro. I didn't say he "crafted" 40+ posts a day, it wasn't supposed to be a positive comment. It was meant to point to his MTF obsession and life. Not to mention, most of those posts are just him saying all his retarded pleasantries like "hey old sport" .. So much addition to the site..

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+1, for most of your points.

What I witnessed mostly is that CD happened to be a 'kind' poster, just as long as you agreed with his - sorry to say so - ridiculous assessments of tennis. As soon as you appeared to exploit the guts to disagree with him, it was just "piss off" or other 'fine' words like that (I've just expressed it 'kindly', here) from him.

Let alone if you had the guts to go against Mr. CD in his worship about his 'Clay Warrior'-delusion, even the more when you are in fact a Nadal fan, and just cannot help to see the guy (being a fantastic tennis player) being connected to genuine atrocities like 'war', 'battle', and 'death', all the time. Which disgusts me.
Which makes me shiver with horror.

Add to all this his belief that a Fedal-fan is per definition a 'hyprocrite' - yes. so does it hurt to be able to acknowledge a players' main rival's accomplishments, eh? - and well, there's my ultimate conclusion -

CD

PS: for clarity, I have had NOTHING to do with CD's ban. I don't even know what happened, so please leave me out of your bashing accusations, thanks.
I agree with all this. Clay Fail may have established some type of rep, but overall I found him to be incredibly annoying, even more so than many other permabanned posters.

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Wow, a lot of love for CD here. I don't share it. To me he was one of the biggest attention whores on the site and before you say anything, no, I'm not bitter. I just want to share my own perspective on this.

Was he a good man?
If he was, he didn't show it. Inventing insulting nicknames for people, always talking as if he owned the place... how quickly people forget. (Btw, I was no fan of Glenn either.)

Was CD a forum icon?
Maybe - which really says something about the quality of this forum.

I will be honest now. I always found CD to be an annoying poster. Anyone wondering why can just go back and check for example all the shit he pulled during the ACC 2011 and prior to it. The fact is, you don't come as close to winning the ACC as he did (lost the final by like 3 votes) if you are in fact a good poster. That just doesn't happen.

Now, CD seemed to calm down a bit in 2012. And he was never as unbearable as SdG. But saying stuff like "he contributed to this forum"? Honestly? In a couple of years I personally will remember him as someone who entered buckloads of threads with the sole purpose of making them about himself.

Now go ahead and throw shit at me if you want. I only wanted to share my viewpoint.
All this as well.

Seriously, I really imagine what kind of life Clay Fail has in real life for him to act such a way on a forum, where he has invented this imaginary really ridiculous persona and acted as though he commanded mods. How his "followers" fail to see all his terrible posts, many of which get deleted. His "followers" think oh what a great poster at predicting stuff he is, but have you really read all his shit since 2008? Most were utter jokes of posts which he would hypocritically defend. He makes new threads that have already been going on for years and people think he is contributing? Really?



I think half the people here don't get the point, that this IS NOT Clay Fail's first warning/issues. He has been banned several times, not to mention for his ridiculousness he has nearly won the ACC for the past couple of years, etc. How does that even begin to make some kind of evidence of what a great poster he is? It doesn't..
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Old 07-25-2012, 04:18 AM   #35
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Default Re: Clay Death Permaban: Consider rescinding please.

Thank you very much Masterclass for opening this thread. I can never write as good as you, you took words from my mouth. Finishingmove also wrote a very good and fair post.

Sorry for my long-winded post and my bad English. What I want to say is that: I have been here on the first day since the board was being formed and I have seen a lot. Not that I am totally biased towards CD as we shared the same favourite player, but from what I saw all through the years, there were/are a lot of posters who are worst than him but didn’t get such severe punishment.

We all know MTF is a tennis site and we come here mainly to talk about tennis. CD, though his tennis knowledge is sometimes unconventional or questionable and his posts are repetitive, but he has only one aim: to discuss tennis, unlike some others who only come here to fool around and insult the players he/she does not like and their fans. He never spread hatred towards other players or other fan base.

We all know his favourite player is Rafa, but even though Roger is not his favourite, and he got a lot of attacks from his fans, he still created a thread to applause his achievements:

Federer : The Mother Of All Quests : 20 Slams And 100 Titles

http://www.menstennisforums.com/show...ght=clay+death

More than that, he also invited some other posters from other message board to join MTF, isn’t this a merit to the forum?

He also encourages harmony of the MTF by inviting all posters, disregard of who his/her favourite player is, to join in the Castle thread. You can see that it has now reached volume 54 and the posters who post there contain a lot of roger fans as well. Do you see very often such harmony in other chat threads? Even though I am a Rafa fans, I was not being welcomed in the Rafa chat threads in the Rafa forum, some posters made it clear that I was not being welcomed. So you can see CD is very generous for allowing Roger fans to post in his castle thread.

http://www.menstennisforums.com/show...06320&page=308

Does he have no flaws? Of course not, he could get emotional easily and attacked his haters relentlessly. But if you were him, all you want is to discuss tennis and someone keeps challenging you, saying your threads are rubbish and shit, and that your favourite player is a monkey, dirty cheater, doper, pig, faking injuries. Karma got him so now he is really injured and could not participate in Olympics ........ How cool can you get? But still, he was too considerate (or too foolish?) not to report them (but sadly they reported him non-stop) but to face them direct, and thats why he got those infractions.

Name calling is a very subjective thing. For his name calling “ejaculon”, I don’t know what this word means. I don’t think he meant insult or harm but if most people don’t like it, he should quit it. But I also saw him given a lot of bad names by other posters as “Clay-fail”, “Clay-douche”, “Idoit”, “No brain”, are they good as well?

And in answer to some posters’ query as to his ban. If my memory served me right, CD was never being permanently-banned. The maximum penalty that he got was 6 months when he first joined the board. He opened a thread asking the mods why they deleted his threads and got this punishment.

I know that rules are rules but they are dead and not lively like humans, we humans are prone to making mistakes. Even in a law suit, mercy would sometimes be given in consideration of human feelings, let alone a message board. So I wish the mods would re-consider CD’s ban, he deserves a ban, he needs to reform and behave better, but not permanently.

Thanks in advance for taking notice.
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OK, as civilized people we can agree to disagree. I've known CD back from 2006 when we both used to post on tennis.com. He is very passionate about tennis, his language is very colorful. Although, we support different players, we got along very well ... yes, he is different, but a permanent ban is just too much. the problem is, many guys here are pretending they know everything ... CD, because of his unique personality, was quite often provoked by other posters on MTF. When he tried to defend himself and fight back, he got in troubles.

We need more colorful personalities. Even GlennM, should be allowed to come back. Yes, he was crazy, but I did enjoy his style and his sense of humor.

CD does not deserve this. There are so many trolls on this board who's trolling is very sophisticated and they get away with it. CD never started a thread with an intention to insult anybody. Some of you might not like his style, or you think you are better or smarter but please.

I'm against the MTF policy to permanently ban posters, in general ... the only exception would be if someone insult a player or another poster on a racial basis (PrimaDonna was probably the worst one, and thank God she was finally banned).

Admins should really reconsider some of their policies. They are behaving sometimes as if they were world tennis police. CD even paid for his lifetime membership here.

I remember, back in 2008, I posted a very innocent funny pic of some tennis girls here (I guess one of mods thought that he/she had seen some imaginary v!ganas in that pic), and I got banned for a month or so, because it was seen as porn. I was like WTF. Are you people really that sensitive? Give me a break.

BRING CD BACK, Bring GlennM back too ... and chill out for God's sake.

Admins and Mods, and I'm saying this with all respect to you, please try to be more liberal/open minded, and see the big picture.

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Free Clay Death, please.
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Well said Mr. Alex.

I want to emphasize this thread is not about popularity/likeability of a banned user.
This is about reasonable judgement being applied, instead of looking at pure numbers.

As I said previously, I don't think any user should be permanently banned for reaching some arbitrary limit on accumulation of assorted infractions. It's far too easy for someone with knowledge of a poster's status and personality to purposely draw him into a situation where he will commit a relatively minor infraction that causes him to go over a arbitrary limit.

Permanent bans should only happen as a result of an egregious offense or repeated egregious offenses as Mr. Alex inferred.

I don't know the history of other banned posters mentioned so I can't comment on their situation, but if it is similar, then yes, they should be unbanned as well.

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Yeah I agree CD contributed greatly to the forum...in quantitative terms.

He was nice in the chat threads, but quite an insufferable arrogant douche in GM - especially when you disagreed with his views, or disagreed with the views of a poster which he agreed with. His defenders keep claiming that he was frequently provoked into attacking other posters, but he always had the option of not responding. He even resorted to personal attacks against posters that he didn't agree with, just because he didn't agree with them. Just recently I called a post by Ash86 about the shitty quality of Federer's fanbase stupid (or maybe I used the word 'retarded') and CD responded by writing a long piece of drivel about how I claim to be a prim, proper, conservative woman and yet I used the word "fuck" in my post and therefore I was being a hypocrite. Putting aside how that made absolutely no sense, the personal attack was wholly unnecessary, especially since I wasn't even talking to him in the first place. And it's not like he wasn't already aware of how he was probably on thin ice; he has no one but himself to blame if he couldn't be bothered to change his posting style, or to ignore posters that he couldn't get along with and posts that offended him. Did he have to respond to every single post that he found offensive? Half the posts on GM offend me, but do I respond to everything? I'm sorry, CD had this coming. It's just too bad.
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CD has always been very nice to me, we have disagreed in a few things and I've let him know that but under the uttermost respect to each other, I consider him a friend.

That said, I warned him to back off with his name calling and such, told him that it doesn't matter who started the discussion once you get dragged down the mud it's a pure survival game, the one that loses their head the least is the one who stays.

I think he should be given another opportunity, there are far worse clowns in this forum and they aren't banned but if his behavior continues to be the same then he should sadly be permabanned, one can only have too many infractions before enough is enough.
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If you continually break the rules for an extended period of time you're going to be permabanned eventually. If you look at his posting style it's pretty easy to see he probably would have had about 20+ infractions over his MTF career and a few temporary bans.

For the castlers who claim he was never abusive unless provoked - that is absolute rubbish. Most of his "clay warrior" threads were just circle jerks among his buddies with a my way or the highway mentality. How many threads did he asked the mods to "take out and have some random animal relieve itself on" just because he saw it as a Nadal hate thread?

I'm not going to say whether he should be permabanned or not. Do any of us really know how many bans or infractions he collected? We don't. The assertion that he shouldn't be banned for bunch of "minor" offenses is absurd. Why should you be allowed to stay if you continually break the rules and show no sign of stopping? He's been doing this for years now, it's not something new. Realistically if the mods got real CD should be the first of a whole list of permabans. MTF has a ridiculous amount of posters whose only purpose is to troll and provoke their opposing tard bases.
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Well said Mr. Alex.

I want to emphasize this thread is not about popularity/likeability of a banned user.
This is about reasonable judgement being applied, instead of looking at pure numbers.

As I said previously, I don't think any user should be permanently banned for reaching some arbitrary limit on accumulation of assorted infractions. It's far too easy for someone with knowledge of a poster's status and personality to purposely draw him into a situation where he will commit a relatively minor infraction that causes him to go over a arbitrary limit.

Permanent bans should only happen as a result of an egregious offense or repeated egregious offenses as Mr. Alex inferred.

I don't know the history of other banned posters mentioned so I can't comment on their situation, but if it is similar, then yes, they should be unbanned as well.

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Very well said, masterclass! I completely agree that permanent bans should NOT be a result of simply accumulating N-number of red or yellow cards.

I've been long enough on MTF to have seen the posts of other controversial permabanned posters such as Glenn, The Magician, prima donna, and others and let me tell you this - none, and I mean NONE of them have ever attempted to change their attitudes, after the lengthy bans they were given before being ultimately permabanned, as much as Clay Death has. Just for that he deserves to be brought back!
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Default Re: Clay Death Permaban: Consider rescinding please.

"MTF has a ridiculous amount of posters whose only purpose is to troll and provoke their opposing tard bases."

this clearly was/is never his purpose. And I don't agree that he hasn't changed. He used to make a lot of threads in the GM and got furious when they got deleted. After the ban, he did not make that much of threads any more and spent less time in GM as before, though he still could not resist the temptation to defend Rafa there and got himself into trouble. It is easy to stay calm if your idol is not being constantly bashed, but it is not easy to be a rafa fans. I guess I am a bit more calm than him, but can't deny that my blood was boiling a lot of times when i saw those monkey, dirty cheater, faking injuries, doper comments.......

that being said, i don't think he is a saint and neither do all of us. But I am certain that he is not those who carries malicious wish and I hope he can get another chance.
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Default Re: Clay Death Permaban: Consider rescinding please.

You can defend your favourite player without being nasty about it and resorting to personal attacks against posters who insulted the said favourite player.

For chrissakes, he's (presumably) a grown man. He's (presumably) not some 12-year-old child too immature to resist provocation.
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