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Old 07-24-2012, 03:28 PM   #76
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Nadal's mental strength/fighting... I've read many times (and believed) how if it goes to decider, he practically cannot lose. While recently he crumbled quite often, from Dodig to even Verdasco of all people.
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Old 07-24-2012, 03:42 PM   #77
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There is so much nonsense in this thread. It's basically just another chance for haters to trash some of the world's top players. I strongly dislike Roger Federer because of his personality, but I'm not going to call his game or strokes "overrated".
And I deeply love Federer but I can say that ... because the human he is has led to a legend, a myth, comments which are really "over the top" and forget the reality.

Same for Nadal in a lesser extent.

Djokovic hasn't led to enough myth so far.
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Old 07-25-2012, 05:03 AM   #78
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Tsonga's net game is not overrated, his volleys are quite good but the problem is that his approach shots are some of the worst ones you would see in a pro.

Roger's BH has actually become more solid to play rallies than it used to be, consistently speaking it is better now than it was before because he's not aiming to hit winners off it all the time like he did on his peak, right now he's more patient and uses his best BH shots (slices & angular CC) to set up his FH or volleys and finish the point.

Is it the best one handed BH? no way, it's just that the rest of his game is still so good (and it was better at his peak) that he made up for that weak wing against everyone except for Rafa on clay (consistently speaking).

Rafa's BH has never been overrated either IMO, it was always a means to an end but his main weapon has always been the FH as well, most of his winners come off that shot, the BH is to set up rallies.
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Federer's second serve.
Djokovic's footwork.
Nadal's forehand.
Murray's defense.

Might post some more later.

Edit: Just realised the title says "shot" so I can't really include footwork and defense but oh well.
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Edit: Just realised the title says "shot" so I can't really include footwork and defense but oh well.
you should because there "non-shot" qualities are veryunderrated on MTF
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Tsonga's net game is not overrated, his volleys are quite good but the problem is that his approach shots are some of the worst ones you would see in a pro.
^^ this..
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Nadal's use of medical time outs has been very poor lately, couldn't use it at the proper moment.
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Federer's second serve.
Djokovic's footwork.
Nadal's forehand.
Murray's defense.

Might post some more later.

Edit: Just realised the title says "shot" so I can't really include footwork and defense but oh well.
Feel free to post about stuff other than shots.

E.g., Gasquet's court positioning.
You know. Just for a 100% random example
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Tomic' retarded forehand.
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Murray's folding abilities in slam finals

Nadal's and Ferrer's fighting spirit

Tsonga's serve

Verdasco's forehand
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Nadal's "moonball" crap. I mean, djokovic finally did what federer couldn't do..made a mockery of it.
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Old 07-26-2012, 03:19 AM   #88
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Tsonga's net game is not overrated, his volleys are quite good but the problem is that his approach shots are some of the worst ones you would see in a pro.

Roger's BH has actually become more solid to play rallies than it used to be, consistently speaking it is better now than it was before because he's not aiming to hit winners off it all the time like he did on his peak, right now he's more patient and uses his best BH shots (slices & angular CC) to set up his FH or volleys and finish the point.

Is it the best one handed BH? no way, it's just that the rest of his game is still so good (and it was better at his peak) that he made up for that weak wing against everyone except for Rafa on clay (consistently speaking).

Rafa's BH has never been overrated either IMO, it was always a means to an end but his main weapon has always been the FH as well, most of his winners come off that shot, the BH is to set up rallies.
Fact is the approach shot is a vital component of your "net game". Knowing when to come in and how to come in is as important as the quality of the volleys themselves. Tsonga has a great volley which he can abuse at times like a lot of players. His punch volleys are decent but nothing out of the ordinary.
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Nadal's "moonball" crap. I mean, djokovic finally did what federer couldn't do..made a mockery of it.
But if only one guy, one of the two currently ranked above him, has been able to consistently make a mockery of it, is it really "overrated"? Given that it varies per person and surface at times, that same forehand tends to give most people nightmares.
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I've already listed mine. Here are some underrated shots now.

-Federer's backhand

-Tsonga's serve

-Del Potro's forehand

-Berdych's backhand

-Tipsy's backhand

-Cilic's return of serve
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