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Old 07-24-2012, 11:56 AM   #61
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It's pretty difficult to find generally overrated shots but there are a couple overhyped strokes there: Gasquet's BH definitely, it's irrelevant that the stroke is gorgeous when he's hitting it 4 meters behind the baseline throughout his career, the top players abuse that court positioning advantage consistently. The only time I saw him consistently hit it from an aggressive position was MC 2005.

Nadal's volley also, he's not better than Federer in that at all. Mostly putaways or incredibly advantageous positions in the net, although he hits the drop volley consistently well.

What else? Maybe DP's FH, sure it's a huge weapon when he unwinds but that's about it, it can be very ineffective when he's not hitting his spots or his opponent doesn't allow him to use it like he wants to. A great weapon but not the GOATFH some people were saying it was bc he hit couple of 100+ in the USO final.
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Federer's topspin BH has really only been outstanding (for me) for a period of a few months at the end of 2006. Before and after it was always the lesser of his rally shots (FH and BH slice as well) by a large margin.
That final against Blake was absurd as far as the BH goes. I disagree though that his topspin BH hasn't been great otherwise, he's always used it quite well to create angles and put himself to a position to end the rally with the FH. The only thing it's better now idealing with the high balls, for example Fed was in huge trouble in the USO 2005 final when Agassi started kicking his 1st serve to Fed's BH at 100 mph, it completely threw him off his rhythm.
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Ok, apparently your post gets deleted when you say Federer is overrated, but I'll try again.

His forehand is overrated (greatest weapon ever, hmm, highly questionable), but the main thing is that Federer in general is overhyped on here. JesusFed and stuff like that. 'Peak Federer would've killed him.'

No, just say no to that.
Actually, you could read previous polls about "who is the most overrated player ? and you could see that I answered "Federer" ... despite being a Fedlover ... because yes, his hype is just too much.

BUT about your example 'Peak Federer would've killed him.',

I can see that you're 20 years old and I don't know how much you did watch prime Federer, but please watch some videos from Youtube if you want to know what Fed's forehand was at his peak (his forehand was at his peak probably around 2004-2005 even though Fed's overall peak may be rather 2006, esp. on clay)

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I think it's more a matter of him being overrated by his fanboys
Fed's fanboys don't always overrate him,

on the opposite some people who don't like him do overrate him, especially journalists, for instance Tignor who is a massive Nadal-fan and just has no enthusiasm when Fed wins because he just feels it's ... normal, he seems to feel about him as if he's a machine.

To really enjoy a player, you can't see him as a machine.
That's why I think I rate Nadal higher than you do (although highly disliking him he impresses me hugely just in the meantime -both are connected by the way), because for me he's more of a machine (or rather a freak) than for you.
And I've read the same about Federer.

That said, on MTF specifically and not about real life I was talking about before, there's the special category of "trolling gloryhunters" who take a lot of place and there are more of them who support Fed
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That's trolling leng
You must have missed my post in the other thread where I admitted that I don't troll.
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Nadal's forehand outside of clay. Needs time to set it up and can break down in the face of aggressive play.
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Nadal's volley skill ... Mcenroe has hyped it very much but honestly his volley does not come in top 20 best volleyr.
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Identifying someone who has mediocre volleys is pretty easy. People who aren't confident at the net will literally always play a drop volley when the ball is below net height if the opponent is on the baseline. Nadal is one of those players.
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There is so much nonsense in this thread. It's basically just another chance for haters to trash some of the world's top players. I strongly dislike Roger Federer because of his personality, but I'm not going to call his game or strokes "overrated".
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Don't forget Lew Hoad's backhand, man that was overated
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There is so much nonsense in this thread. It's basically just another chance for haters to trash some of the world's top players. I strongly dislike Roger Federer because of his personality, but I'm not going to call his game or strokes "overrated".
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Federer fans everytime he hits a good backhand today;

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del potros forehand to me is very overrated.
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Tsonga's net play, his approach shot is as overrated as sex on the beach.
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