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Old 07-24-2012, 12:02 AM   #16
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I think Gasquet's BH is probably a little bit overrated. He has to stand 15 metres behind the baseline to use it, so he doesn't win matches with it.
Gasquet's backhand isn't the shot that pushes him back, it's his mechanical, large-looping forehand that goes well above his head before ever locking in to hit the ball. On the contrary, he actually seems to relish the aggressive approach on his BH.
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Old 07-24-2012, 12:20 AM   #17
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Ferrer's fighting ability/mentality.

Federer's serve

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I think Gasquet's BH is probably a little bit overrated. He has to stand 15 metres behind the baseline to use it, so he doesn't win matches with it.
Sorry but, how many months do you see Gasquet playing? That's the actual Gasquet, without confidence. The younger Gasquet did what he wants with his bh.



See that video, specially the match against Roddick.
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Old 07-24-2012, 12:32 AM   #18
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Nadal's stamina
Del Potro's FH
Isner's FH
Some perhaps controversial, but it's only my opinion. List of underrated shots is much longer.
That's what happens when you are blinded by hate

Federer's volley is the most overrated shot of all time!
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Federer's volley is the most overrated shot of all time!
Slightly hypocritical, but I'll take that
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Federer's backhand. It breaks like a soft twig under pressure.
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Hell, Federer in general is overrated.
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I for one think Nadal's volleys are VASTLY overrated except his drop volleys probably.
What do you mean? He's pretty comfortable with them and doesn't often make mistakes, when he goes to the net he generally puts the volleys away and makes it look easy.
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The big serve (Roddick, Raonic, Karlovic, etc.) Most of the players who have a big serve have very little else. At times, the high mileage serve winds up being a giant error.
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Federer's volley is the most overrated shot of all time!
I'm not saying his stamina is bad, it is superb but still overrated. Check SF USO 2008, F IW and F Miami 2011, F Tokyo 2011, F USO 2011, F RG 2012. In all those matches he was struggling physically and his opponents showed better endurance. He is just getting more human with age.
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I'm not saying his stamina is bad, it is superb but still overrated. Check SF USO 2008, F IW and F Miami 2011, F Tokyo 2011, F USO 2011, F RG 2012. In all those matches he was struggling physically and his opponents showed better endurance. He is just getting more human with age.
My point is that stamina is not a shot
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The big serve (Roddick, Raonic, Karlovic, etc.) Most of the players who have a big serve have very little else. At times, the high mileage serve winds up being a giant error.
You're kind of digging yourself into a logical hole here. You're listing the big serve of various players as an overrated shot, and then claiming that these same players have very little else to offer. You're essentially saying they win tennis matches with scraps, which is an especially questionable claim sgainst someone as accomplished and proven as Roddick...

Also, I'm not sure anyone overrates Karlovic's serve. Most people know what he brings to the table, and the most you'll *usually* hear about him is, "He can be tricky", or "Guys don't want his name in the draw", or "He can force a tiebreak". I really don't see any of that as out of line.


I agree with those who have mentioned Nadal's volleying. That's not to say it isn't respectable, but it's not what people make out to be, and I'd take it a step further by saying he doesn't do it enough to consider it a real factor.
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Federer's volley is the most overrated shot of all time!
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My point is that stamina is not a shot
What does your original post claim you were trying to point out stamina is not a shot? Either way, it is a legitimate thing to point out. Rafa has several times bent over to catch his breath. Stamina still certainly one of the best, but there are players out there who show less signs of fatigue during matches.

Tsonga's forehand pretty overrated IMO. I thought he used to hit quite powerfully, but after he made the switch to Babolat from Wilson, I thought his forehand lost a little bit kind of like when Novak switched to Head from Wilson, it seemed a lost a little bit of pace off everything. Both might be coincidental or even not the case, but it certainly appeared both lost some bite in their shots after leaving Wilson.
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Federer's backhand. It breaks like a soft twig under pressure.
Learn to read, OP is asking about a shot that is actually overrated. We all know Roger's BH is the weakest part of his game, it has never been overrated.

And for his volleys, well name someone in the top 20 who has better volleys than Roger



78% of volleys won in a GS final.

Isner's Forehand
Murray's Backhand (is his best shot but isn't nowhere in the league of Djokovic or Safin)
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Learn to read, OP is asking about a shot that is actually overrated. We all know Roger's BH is the weakest part of his game, it has never been overrated.

And for his volleys, well name me someone in the top 20 who has better volleys than Roger

Isner's Forehand
Murray's Backhand (is his best shot but isn't nowhere in the league of Djokovic or Safin)
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