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Old 11-09-2012, 09:16 PM   #31
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btw, as challenger calendar for 2012 is out for jan and feb

kazan, wolfsburg, florianopolis meknes and casablanca are cancelled... (at least comparing to last year)

in exchange dornbirn (austria) will be the biggest tournament of the first 2 months €106,500+H

while we're at prize money, challenger prizes not only don't grow, but usually go down! also, more players will have to be in futures in those weeks...
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Old 11-09-2012, 10:04 PM   #32
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bellucci open...
it's ridiculous...

and all these dirtballers on hard lolz... bellucci/donskoy probably the best outside clay?
quite easily the best off hard of the group, yes. If the draw allows it it should be bellucci/donskoy in the final
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Old 11-09-2012, 10:10 PM   #33
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bellucci open...
it's ridiculous...

and all these dirtballers on hard lolz... bellucci/donskoy probably the best outside clay?
this tourney is a joke
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Old 11-09-2012, 11:29 PM   #34
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yeah, challenger tour in europe will be a lot worse in 2013 i think...
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Old 11-09-2012, 11:43 PM   #35
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I'm so sad about this. Lots of tournaments getting cancelled.
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Old 11-10-2012, 04:04 AM   #36
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Bellucci WC isn't justified outside being local but he can lose this tournament easily (like last year). He also adds some level and one reason for locals to buy tickets.

Bellucci: F at Moscow, R3 at Indian Wells.
Hanescu: no important results on hard this year.
Lorenzi: F at Guadalajara. Anyway, he even played Cordenons (clay) between LA and USOpen.
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Was there a good reason for the wild card not going to the top ranked Brazilian in the challenger rankings? Thiago Alves ranks 21st and won two hard court tournaments this season, including the Sao Paulo event.
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Bellucci wild card devalues the tournament in my opinion.

If he wins the attitude will be "so he should, with his ranking!"
If he loses it will be "Muggucci, can't beat a bunch of challenger level players".

I don't really see what the player himself has to gain either. Not a huge amount of dollars at stake.
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Old 11-13-2012, 07:02 PM   #39
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Kochtavares organizes ch tour finals.

Kochtavares manages Bellucci carreer.

Got it?

Its the same obligation why Bellucci played ch Sao Paulo in 2009 and 2010.

http://www.kochtavares.com.br/koch/eventos.asp
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will bellucci win the finals this year? lets see...
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Gastão Elias was the alternate #1, said in his Facebook page that he is IN! Great news! I wonder who pulled out...
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Good news for Elias, he can play very good on hardcourt.
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The only good thing about the Challenger Finals is Klizan losing points
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The only good thing about the Challenger Finals is Klizan losing points
You are trying so hard to provoke, but fails yet again.

Just concentrate on making failthreads like "2012 or 2013" and get rid of trying to remember what was a year ago.
You really suck at it
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You are trying so hard to provoke, but fails yet again.

Just concentrate on making failthreads like "2012 or 2013" and get rid of trying to remember what was a year ago.
You really suck at it
Looks like I've provoked you
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