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Old 10-09-2012, 08:31 AM   #286
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Fake stats.

There was no weekly №1 rankings before 1973. Prior to that the rankings were determined on a year end basis.

So Pancho has the all time YE record
Roger has the all time weekly record
People didn't read my earlier post:

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Before computer rankings, it was impossible to know how many weeks a tennis player held the World No. 1 status. The only given were the Year-End rankings, but the number of tournaments was simply not the same in the The Golden Age of Tennis inside the Pro Era. Even the 70s rankings are a little stretched as to the number of consecutive weeks with a No.1 position. The computer rankings were run only a few times a year, unlike today.
Not even the 1973 rankings were weekly.
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Old 10-09-2012, 08:46 AM   #287
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it's really simple:

fed wins => weak era

nadal/djokovic wins => strong era

exactly.

This year belonged to the strongest era till June, then it became instantly a weak era in July when Olderer "fluked" the #1 ranking.

What a talentless mug this Olderer.

Also the count should be adjusted for weeks at #1 and y.e.

102x4 = 408 >>> 299

2x4=8 >>> 5

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Old 10-09-2012, 09:28 AM   #288
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exactly.

This year belonged to the strongest era till June, then it became instantly a weak era in July when Olderer "fluked" the #1 ranking.

What a talentless mug this Olderer.

Also the count should be adjusted for weeks at #1 and y.e.

102x4 = 408 >>> 299

2x4=8 >>> 5

OMG, Rafa GOAT!
What's funny is that even if you multiply by 2 nadal's stats on weeks #1 and YE #1 are still worse than Roger's.

102 x 2 = 204 < 299
2 x 2 = 4 < 5

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Default Re: Monday 16/7/12 Roger Federer breaks the all time weeks at no. 1 record. CONGRATS

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Fake stats.

There was no weekly №1 rankings before 1973. Prior to that the rankings were determined on a year end basis.

So Pancho has the all time YE record
Roger has the all time weekly record
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Old 10-09-2012, 10:56 AM   #290
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it's really simple:

fed wins => weak era

nadal/djokovic wins => strong era

right.

The king of a weak time Roger. the king of the weak era already 30 years old, and further declined. And the old player who declined still wins GS and ranks 1st.


An interesting thing

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right.

The king of a weak time Roger. the king of the weak era already 30 years old, and further declined. And the old player who declined still wins GS and ranks 1st.

An interesting thing

Don't make it too dificult for them. Some have already decided they don't want to recognize Federer as the greatest ever, or indeed the greatest of his generation, no matter what his achievements. They're not going to change their minds as this has little to do with tennis and more to do with their feelings. So, with the conclusion made beforehand, all that is required are arguments. With no good ones available, they do what they can with the bad ones. If some arguments (such as: "He's never going to win another slam in this strong era") should fail, they move on to the next, never questioning the conclusion.
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Thread title ought to be changed. Fed has not broken the all time weeks at #1 record.

The Open Era record, yes, but not the all time record.

1. Pancho Gonzales- 364 weeks
2. Bill Tilden- 330 weeks
3. Don Budge- 303 weeks
4. Roger Federer- 299 weeks

He ought to pass or at least tie Budge in the next few weeks, and may tie Tilden next year. Gonzales will be tough to catch, but not impossible.
How can you say how many weeks these pre open era guys have?
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Old 10-09-2012, 02:06 PM   #293
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right.

The king of a weak time Roger. the king of the weak era already 30 years old, and further declined. And the old player who declined still wins GS and ranks 1st.


An interesting thing

He is 31 yo.
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Old 10-09-2012, 09:02 PM   #294
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You can reapet that like a parrot and belive its true, but its just not.
Wrong.

It's true no matter how many times I say it is or how many times you or others say it isn't.
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You cannot be serious. Murray is a very good player thriving in an era where the conditions suit his grinding brand of tennis. In no way is he a mercurial talent like Federer or even remotely close to being the second most talented player on tour

It is enough to say that the aspects he excels at (defense, fitness, return, movement), he's eclipsed by Nadal in all of them except return. Let's not even talk about aspects like his serve or FH, etc...
You bring up Andy's grinding when Djokovic and Nadal are the epitome of grinders. His style of tennis is far superior to theirs and any other players when it comes to pure talent and aesthetics.

Eclipsed by Nadal in everything? Lol, no. Like you said, Andy's return >> Nadal's. But also, Andy's serve >> Nadal's, Andy's backhand >> Nadal's, Andy's variety >> Nadal's, Andy's volleys >> Nadal's, Andy's fitness >> Nadal's (Nadal is injured every few months while Andy isn't), Andy's overall game >> Nadal's (in terms of aesthetics of course) and finally Andy's talent >> Nadal's.

Also, he can hit the ball far harder than Nadal can, when he wants to, and has a serve far superior to the Spaniard's.

Andy is the most talented player on tour, not including Federer. Just deal with it.
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Nick, about your sig. You do know Federer is half South African, right?

South African history is the opposite of switzerland history..
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300 is in the bag, congratulations for Monday Rog! Epic.
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Well, in fact he has. Gonzales & co didn't really get any weeks as #1 as none such were available at the time. They had to wait an entire year to see their name on top of a list for the 2nd time.

Besides, didn't you use to have more than three above him? And what's with 303? That's ten weeks short of six years....
Budge got 303 weeks:

1937: Vines/Perry/Budge split #1, Budge gets 17 weeks
1938: Budge/Vines split #1, Budge gets 26 weeks
1939: Budge #1 all 52 weeks
1940: Budge #1 all 52 weeks
1941: Budge #3 or something
1942: Budge #1 all 52 weeks
1943: Budge #1 all 52 weeks
1944: Budge #1 all 52 weeks
1945: Bobby Riggs takes over #1
1946: Bobby Riggs #1 again

So, 5 YE #1, + 26 and 17 is 303 weeks.

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Fake stats.

There was no weekly №1 rankings before 1973. Prior to that the rankings were determined on a year end basis.

So Pancho has the all time YE record
Roger has the all time weekly record
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I have my own stats. Gonzales has:

1952- 52 weeks at #1
1953- #3 or something
1954- 52 weeks
1955- 52 weeks
1956- 52 weeks
1957- 52 weeks
1958- Sedgman/Gonzales split #1, so 26 weeks
1959- Gonzales/Hoad split #1, 26 more weeks
1960- Gonales/Rosewall split #1, 26 more weeks
1961- Gonzales/Rosewall split #1, 26 more weeks

5 YE #1, plus 4 split #1, so 7 years as #1, 364 weeks

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How can you say how many weeks these pre open era guys have?
See above.
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On the ATP website, the weekly update of the rankings started only on the 25th of june 1984.

Before that, except in cases when the situation was 100% clear (a player being very much ahead of the others), it seems impossible to know an exact number of weeks at this or that rank, you can only get a maximum if the case was optimal for him because he could always have lost a rank for a few weeks if a weekly update had been made.

Now Fed has 300 weeks guaranteed, 302 if Djokovic doesn't ask a wild-card in Basel or in tournaments next week.
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