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Davydenko 8 28.57%
Nalbandian 18 64.29%
Can't split them 2 7.14%
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Old 11-29-2009, 11:12 PM   #91
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Consistency is always underrated while talent is definitely overrated.
Thing is though Davydenko IS talented, they always go on about how its about his work ethic etc but no one can strike a ball on the rise as good as him.
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Old 11-29-2009, 11:17 PM   #92
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Default Re: Who will be considered as a better player: Davydenko vs Nalbandian

If Cheese burger Dave worked half as hard as Donkey he'd have a slam at least. Burgerbandian just edges it but im sure by the end of next year that will change.
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Thing is though Davydenko IS talented, they always go on about how its about his work ethic etc but no one can strike a ball on the rise as good as him.
Of course Davydenko is talented, getting to the top 50 in all honesty means you're extremely talented.

But Nalbandian (2nd current favourite player) is slightly more talented than Kolya.

I rate them 50/50 right now.
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Old 11-30-2009, 12:15 AM   #94
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Okay, Davydenko hasn't made a grand slam final, but he has had a much more consistent career. When's the last time he was out of the top 10? How long did he spend in the top five?

I don't think Davydenko needs a grand slam final to be considered superior to Nalbandian. It's close though.
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Default Re: Who will be considered as a better player: Davydenko vs Nalbandian

Excellent question. Right now, its a real toss-up. However, I'd go with Davy simply because of his record in finals: 19-5. But, attitude-wise, no contest. A workhorse vs. a waistoid of talent.
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Default Re: Who will be considered as a better player: Davydenko vs Nalbandian

It's close. Looking only at the results it's quite even. Davydenko has the additional titles, top 5 consistency and one more masters. Nalbandian has the slam final and the more stunning victories. Hard to pick one over the other right now, give it two more years though and I think we will have a more clear cut answer.

I would love to see both of these guys in slam quarterfinals in 2010.
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Default Re: Who will be considered as a better player: Davydenko vs Nalbandian

Unfortunately, ten years from now,the average tennis fan will only remember grand slam titlist (and maybe finalist), so Nalbandian will be considered the better player. However, if we take all their results into account, it is difficult to say who is the better player.

Regardless, I really hope that one of them can win a slam since they are one of my favourites.
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davydenko 1 - 13 federer

nalbandian 8 - 10 federer


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Default Re: Who will be considered as a better player: Davydenko vs Nalbandian

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davydenko 1 - 13 federer

nalbandian 8 - 10 federer


nuff said.
Yes because only your record against Federer counts. Alternately I can say:

Nalbandian 10-10 finals record

Davydenko 19-5 finals record

nuff said.

Or I can go with:

Nalbandian 0 years finished in the top 5

Davydenko 4 consecutive years in the top 5

Nuff said

Also:

Nalbandian 6 year end all time high ranking

Davydenko 5 consecutive years he has finished 6th or higher in the ranking

Nuff said.
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Default Re: Who will be considered as a better player: Davydenko vs Nalbandian

I think now wimbledon final make the big difference in achievments.
Leaving the titles away, I consider Nalbandian as a better player (more talent, beautiful game).
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Nalbandian is a better player but an underachiever.

When David plays well, he's just unbelievable.

Nikolay is awesome too, but Nalba has an even more delightful tennis when he's on.
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Okay, Davydenko hasn't made a grand slam final, but he has had a much more consistent career. When's the last time he was out of the top 10? How long did he spend in the top five?

I don't think Davydenko needs a grand slam final to be considered superior to Nalbandian. It's close though.
At the beginning of the year. Although he only really dropped out because of injury. Five straight years finishing in the top 6 is amazing!
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Good to see my thread bumped. Maybe now there will be less laughing about this comparison, even though I am still hesitating between these two and put it on 50-50.

Davy definitely needs a GS final to top Nalbandian. If he finishes without one (although some might argue about that RG semi against Puerta) - I will have them in my books placed on equal positions.
Nothing to say, Puerta was clean in that match + Davy choked
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Okay, Davydenko hasn't made a grand slam final, but he has had a much more consistent career. When's the last time he was out of the top 10? How long did he spend in the top five?

I don't think Davydenko needs a grand slam final to be considered superior to Nalbandian. It's close though.
if you consider the end-of-year rankings, Davydenko has even been ahead of Roddick (who has been far more of a star) for past 4 years : actually he was always the very first one just behind the "very top-guys" :

- Federer-Nadal in 2006
- Federer-Nadal-Djokovic in 2007
- Federer-Nadal-Djokovic-Murray in 2008
- Federer-Nadal-Djokovic-Murray-Del Potro in 2009

you could even add 2005 where he was the very first player behind the very top-players of that time : Federer-Nadal-Roddick-Hewitt.

As for the number of points in the end of year, it's been also hugely consistent since 2006 : 2825-2825-2715-3000 (3000 in 2009 is the calculation with the old raning system to compare)

Then yes, this regularity and rankings (>Roddick) is hugely impressive.

But if the question is "who will be consider as the better player?", which is related in most minds with talent and top-level,

then clearly Nalbandian will take the edge

And actually as for the rankings, it's also very impressive how Nalbandian has managed to be ranked in the top-12 (and usually top-8) each year from 2002 to 2008 and very often really playing one part of the season

I heard a French former tennis player saying that at his maximum level, Nalbandian could play better than Federer's maximum level (esp indoors) : I think a player about whom you can say that is a very very rare and precious thing, who else can we even think of saying that ? Safin ? Maybe Del Potro later ? Nadal in a way but it's not the same kind of tennis at all

Anyway, Davydenko is great, and I'm happy that he gets a major title at last and gets some recognition he deserves,

but the fact is that Nalbandian will be more remembered
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