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Old 07-05-2012, 03:41 AM   #46
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Then ask someone who criticizes Nadal AND NOT Fed. Because I criticize both.

Exactly proving my point. Nadal doesn't just mention the injury, he BLAMES the loss on the injury...
First at all, Federer blames his loss against Berdych on a injury.

Second, can you back your claims?
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So many excuses, so much bullshit. The sooner we're back to 250s and challengers and you can revert to being an Italotard/journeyman tard instead of a mega-delusional Rafatard the better.
First of all, I'm still in challenger mode, I couldn't care less about Wimbledon bar Federer. Secondly, nothing I said is excuses nor bullshit, they are real injuries. I guess Nadal should simply never get injured, to appease posters on menstennisforums.com.
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My question is why? When Roger or another player talk about injures after a lost is ok but when is Nadal you disrespect him? Well, sure you are in the rigth place
Because Nadal does it so much more often. Way more than Fed that it makes Fed look like the most polite man in the world, so Nadal is just way worse tbh.
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But, I mean, although I know people here are stupid, I would expect at least some semblance of human decency. Even being the bitch I am, I don't wish injuries on others, I don't laugh at other's injuries, and I don't discredit someone who is injured, because they're going through pain, and it sucks, this is their professional. It crosses the line.
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First of all, I'm still in challenger mode, I couldn't care less about Wimbledon bar Federer. Secondly, nothing I said is excuses nor bullshit, they are real injuries. I guess Nadal should simply never get injured, to appease posters on menstennisforums.com.
I guess he should stop being a 'media image' phony who gives off the impression the sun shines out of his arse when he's a sour puss who can't take losing and his ego ensured he blames an injury for it.

For me, he was 100% against Rosol. I don't believe a fucking word of it. He's a phony prick and I can't wait for him to retire.
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[quote=Filo V.;12181719]US Open wasn't knee issues. He had a torn abdomen.

Miami, he was clearly injured vs Tsonga and could barely move.

Australian Open, he made no excuse for his knee after losing to Djokovic. Knee tape was prevention/precautionary.

Looks like YOU'RE the one making things up: he may not have publicly made excuses AFTER the AO loss, but he certainly made them BEFORE the tournament, which is another Butt Picker specialty: if he wins, whatta TROUPER, if he loses, well, whaddya expect, he was injured? Then there was his classy intrusion in 2009, when, prior to the final, all the news should've been about Fed breaking Sampras' record, winning his first French Open and completing a career slam in the process. Instead of waiting till Monday, the day after the tournament, he felt compelled to breathlessly announce that he might be unable to play at Wimbledon, two weeks hence. Whatta scumbag...

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Then ask someone who criticizes Nadal AND NOT Fed. Because I criticize both.
At least you're consistent. But you're also still criticizing a player basically for being honest.

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Exactly proving my point. Nadal doesn't just mention the injury, he BLAMES the loss on the injury...
Nope, because Nadal doesn't publicly mention injuries. And bringing up the fact one isn't able to perform at their full capabilities is not the same as blaming a loss on injury.
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But, I mean, although I know people here are stupid, I would expect at least some semblance of human decency. Even being the bitch I am, I don't wish injuries on others, I don't laugh at other's injuries, and I don't discredit someone who is injured, because they're going through pain, and it sucks, this is their professional. It crosses the line.
I know, it's quite sad to see such bullshit preached like this. At the end of the day, whether a player is injured is not of others' business.

But this is MTF, when is there any "human decency" here
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First of all, I'm still in challenger mode, I couldn't care less about Wimbledon bar Federer. Secondly, nothing I said is excuses nor bullshit, they are real injuries. I guess Nadal should simply never get injured, to appease posters on menstennisforums.com.
Funny thing is they claim all the time that Rafa knees won't hold him too much time. How many of these guys have predicted that he would be retired in 2010? But the same guys claims that he fake the injuries they had previously predicted. Crazy stuff.
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I always hear "stop making excuses", "stop talking about the injury", "don't talk about being hurt", etc., when a player claims being hurt. We've seen it with Nole earlier in his career, we always see it with Nadal, and we see it with Roger and his back, we see it with Murray often. That somehow they should downplay their injuries, or in fact not even claim to be injured at all, even when they clearly are struggling. With Rafa, we know he gets injured often. But people on here disgustingly mock his injuries and call him a faker, although there is medical statements/proof of his injuries. If a player brings up any injury after the match, they're seen as making an excuse, even when they explicitly give credit to their opponent.

I think it's incredibly disrespectful to these athletes, and it's ridiculous when armchair analysts like the people on here behave in such a way. Also the whole idea it isn't sportsman to me doesn't fly. If a player is injured, then they are injured. It is what it is. It doesn't take away from the result and the win for the opponent, instead it's simply being honest with the conditions of the match. Player A beat a Player B who wasn't able to give 100% of himself on the day.

I really have no idea why people do this and am curious to see any attempt at turning this stupidity into logic. Any reasons?
Rafa is faking it. He has always made the excuse after losing every match. It got old a few years ago. I'd like someone to compile all his interviews and aftermath news after every loss. Rafa seems to have not lost a single match in his life not being injured. That is just disgraceful sportsmanship. Roger on the other hand, has called the trainer maybe once in the past 3 years. Big difference. Murray is whiny and just plays mind games. I don't think there is anything wrong with his leg
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I guess he should stop being a 'media image' phony who gives off the impression the sun shines out of his arse when he's a sour puss who can't take losing and his ego ensured he blames an injury for it.

For me, he was 100% against Rosol. I don't believe a fucking word of it. He's a phony prick and I can't wait for him to retire.
I don't think the injury played any part in the result vs Rosol, but if he's not 100%, he's not 100%, and you are not in the position to say he is lying, in fact, that's a very heavy thing to accuse Nadal of. You're calling Nadal a liar because you think he can't handle losing without a reason for it, but he didn't give any excuses of injury for losing vs Djokovic and now has beaten him three times in a row and probably should have been four in a row. So obviously Nadal is able to handle a loss, as he handled losing to Djokovic in 2011 and has outplayed him for the better part of four matches in 2011.

As for the media image, humble, positive all the time stuff, that's what his family/team created. No different than other top players, who are bullshitters, but that is what people want to see.
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Looks like YOU'RE the one making things up: he may not have publicly made excuses AFTER the AO loss, but he certainly made them BEFORE the tournament, which is another Butt Picker specialty: if he wins, whatta TROUPER, if he loses, well, whaddya expect, he was injured? Then there was his classy intrusion in 2009, when, prior to the final, all the news should've been about Fed breaking Sampras' record, winning his first French Open and completing a career slam in the process. Instead of waiting till Monday, the day after the tournament, he felt compelled to breathlessly announce that he might be unable to play at Wimbledon, two weeks hence. Whatta scumbag...
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Rafa is faking it. He has always made the excuse after losing every match. It got old a few years ago. I'd like someone to compile all his interviews and aftermath news after every loss. Rafa seems to have not lost a single match in his life not being injured. That is just disgraceful sportsmanship. Roger on the other hand, has called the trainer maybe once in the past 3 years. Big difference. Murray is whiny and just plays mind games. I don't think there is anything wrong with his leg
Sportsmanship? Really? It's bad SPORTSMANSHIP that Nadal has injuries? Murray has been getting treatment on his leg throughout Wimbledon. Is that fake? Did Nadal fake getting knee injections? Did Nadal fake barely moving this year in Miami vs Tsonga?

You're saying Nadal lies about injuries. Unless you can prove that, that is a horrible thing to say about an athlete, one of the worst things to say in fact, about a professional athlete.
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First at all, Federer blames his loss against Berdych on a injury.

Second, can you back your claims?
1. Okay??? I said I blame Fed too, just not as much as Nadal

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