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Old 02-27-2015, 09:53 PM   #1
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Default What makes a vulture?

First of all, do you believe in the concept of vulturing/being a vulture?

If you do, where do you draw the line? Is it top-50 players deciding to play Challengers when the #2 seed will be 40+ rankings places beneath them? Is it top-10 players playing 250's? Is it (your not-favorite top 10 player) playing any event below mandatory M1000s, while (your favorite top 10 player) isn't a vulture even if they play 250's?

Curious to see where people stand on this. For instance, I've been seeing a lot of "vulture" talk thrown at Ferrer for playing a 500 this week, for example, and absolutely none thrown at Nishikori (who's the #1 seed in Acapulco to Ferrer's #2). I personally don't think a player playing a 500-event is ever vulturing (after all, top players are required to play a certain number of them).

What are your thoughts?
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Old 02-27-2015, 10:00 PM   #2
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Default Re: What makes a vulture?

I think there are a number of reasons a player will choose to play a tournament as part of their schedule and posters who go on about 'vulturing' are sad little boys who think it makes them sound clever.
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Old 02-27-2015, 10:01 PM   #3
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Default Re: What makes a vulture?

Doesn't depend on the tournament they're playing but the ocassion.

As in, Nishikori is vulturing his way into the TOP 4
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Old 02-27-2015, 10:02 PM   #4
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Default Re: What makes a vulture?

Nothing. It's by far the stupidest term ever invented by MTF. People actually complaining about players wanting to play more tennis and go to different locations.
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Default Re: What makes a vulture?

A vulture egg
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Default Re: What makes a vulture?

Someone who can't compete against the top players in the most important stages of tennis and inflates his ranking by entering lots of lesser tournaments, therefore acquiring a ranking that puts him among the very best without actually being one of them. Nishikori isn't a vulture because he's proven he has the game to beat the very best even when they actually are trying their very best; Ferrer, on the other hand, doesn't.

There's a difference between vulturing, which everybody can do, and being a vulture.
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Default Re: What makes a vulture?

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Nothing. It's by far the stupidest term ever invented by MTF. People actually complaining about players wanting to play more tennis and go to different locations.
This. I mean, who the fuck thinks it is a bad thing to have top players in more events?

The only thing I take issue with is top 50 players in Challengers (lookin' at you, Lu)
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Default Re: What makes a vulture?

It would make sense if you could accumulate points from a unlimited amount of 250 and 500 tournaments but that's obviously not the case.

It's just another way of describing your hate against a certain player.
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This. I mean, who the fuck thinks it is a bad thing to have top players in more events?

The only thing I take issue with is top 50 players in Challengers (lookin' at you, Lu)
That's where I am (with Querrey being the one to raise my eyebrows the most). I guess if Djokovic played a random 250 I'd be like "buh?", but I'd assume he had a reason and wouldn't call him a vulture for it.
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Default Re: What makes a vulture?

An egg posted by a Mama Vulture I guess, since Vultures don't make sex.
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Default Re: What makes a vulture?

Many people says 'vulture'.
I say 'smart schedule'.
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An egg posted by a Mama Vulture I guess, since Vultures don't make sex.
i think you'll need to revise your biology books..

my definition would be - short-ish, long hair grinder, with the infinite capacity to enter almost exclusively tournaments he'd be a top 3 seed.
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i think you'll need to revise your biology books..

my definition would be - short-ish, long hair grinder, with the infinite capacity to enter almost exclusively tournaments he'd be a top 3 seed.
So, they do make sex?

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I think there are a number of reasons a player will choose to play a tournament as part of their schedule and posters who go on about 'vulturing' are sad little boys who think it makes them sound clever.
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Nothing. It's by far the stupidest term ever invented by MTF. People actually complaining about players wanting to play more tennis and go to different locations.
This.
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Default Re: What makes a vulture?

So, that's why Ferrer is called vulture. Now I understand the meaning, didn't know it before.

My first association to "vulture" is a unit in Starcraft game of which name is also "vulture", and because of that, I thought it might be some machine-like ball-collecting player, plus Ferrer fits into that description and that's why I thought so.
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