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Old 07-03-2012, 03:32 AM   #31
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Why Dave has to cut off 155 pts...
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Old 07-03-2012, 05:34 AM   #32
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Nalby is also dropping 65 Davis Cup points from last year, since he didn't make any point in the QFs this year. Also 90 from Wimbly last year. 90 + 65 = 155, only 140 effective because his 105 becomes 40. A 45 goes into his rankings instead, and he made 10 Wimbly points.

That's 45 - 40 = 5
10 + 5 = 15
155 - 15 = 140 drop

Wait, he was in the semis last year. I just checked. So, this was an error, which I'm going to correct.

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Yup, he gained 65 points in the semis last year because he skipped the Quarters. And the semis don't yet drop out from the Davis Cup calculations. I'm going to check all the DC points now. Thank you for pointing Nalby out.
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Old 07-03-2012, 03:30 PM   #33
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There we go. Hajek just entered Live Top 100.
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Old 07-03-2012, 10:13 PM   #34
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Shouldn't Zopp have 594 points after winning 1R in Braunschweig? After Wimby, he gained 19 points. 565+19+10=594....Right? Or does that Futures tournament he won in Estonia this time last year drop from his ranking?
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Old 07-03-2012, 10:59 PM   #35
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Checked Zopp to have all the facts.

The 27 from that Futures drops a few weeks from now. Zopp drops Wimbledon qualifications from last year which was and still is 16 points from a last round loss.

What he gained now is 35 points for qualification and losing in the first round on Wimbledon (25 + 10), and 10 points for the challenger.

The 35 is mandatory in the rankings, and the 10 enters only if big enough. Both of them enter into Zopp's rankings and they knock out the IW 8 points qualification (because there's one extra tournament since last year).

That's 565 - 16 - 8 + 35 + 10 = 541 + 45 = 586.

There is usually no mistake in the calculation (all the ATP ranking rules are implemented in the algorithm correctly and checked for 6 months now - although bugs may still exist but they're very rare).

The mistakes will almost always be in the placement of the tournaments (the exact week they drop off). The OP contains a link to the full rankings xls file which can be expanded and everyone of you can see where all last year's tournaments are placed. You can thus do the calculations yourselves and point out mistakes if the points are not calculated correctly because a tournament is not dropped in the correct week. You can see there the Best 18 score and predict which tournaments get cut off because of new tournaments. This was the case with Nalbandian which had his 65 Davis Cup points placed in the QF instead of SF. This is not the case with Zopp, which (until proven wrong by official rankings) I say has the correct value in my table.

P.S.: Where did you get 19 ? Oh, you meant 35 - 16... But you missed the IW 8 point drop because of one extra tournament.
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Old 07-03-2012, 11:19 PM   #36
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So basically he isnt going to really gain any points unless he makes it farther than 2R in these tournaments right? He will get 15 more points if he beats Muglelli tomorrow, right?
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Old 07-04-2012, 05:33 AM   #37
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Yes, you can basically add any further points he gains at this tournament directly to his current points:

QF: 601
SF: 621
F: 651
W: 701

Except for Mandatory Masters and GS, any player must always score more points than their current minimum. And Zopp's was 8.
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Old 07-04-2012, 09:27 AM   #38
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Update with the results from July 3rd.
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Old 07-04-2012, 04:19 PM   #40
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Rosol going down in the rankings
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Nole and Rafa have both qualified for the World Tour Finals.
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Well then Rosol goes one place down. Poor effort this week.
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Rosol isn't top 100, and hopefully will never be top 100 again.
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Rosol isn't top 100, and hopefully will never be top 100 again.
He only has like 90 points to defend the rest of the year, so don't hold your breath dude...One good tournament and he is right back up there...But, good news for you...Pippy and Potato are about to drop out of the Top 100...Thank God...Hopefully, they will never be Top 100 again...Say so long to your muggy irrelevant faves
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Davis Cup points off this week? which players lost points?
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