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Old 08-13-2012, 09:14 AM   #241
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As long as this keeps interactive, Dencod posts his worked-for list so I can double check for errors, and a few days of time off from time to time are tolerated, I see no reason to stop.

Thanks for the appreciations.

You will notice new columns regarding the round. I have inserted a sub-table containing all ranking points for rounds at each tournament type. My system now automatically detects how many points a player receives for reaching a certain round inside a tournament (I don't have to look it up anymore and it avoids any typos, mis-lookings, etc.). Makes the job a little easier, plus I'm sure many others had already done this thing, so I felt behind.
Glad to here. In past I counted for myself some players as I wanted to know real picture, but mistakes were casual thing. Usually forgot about some tournament replacement or vice versa - penalty and no replacement, something like that.

By the way do you make the same for WTA ranking or you prefer only "real tennis"?
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Old 08-13-2012, 09:18 AM   #242
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By the way do you make the same for WTA ranking or you prefer only "real tennis"?
No WTA equivalent. I don't really watch WTA that much and not even fully understand the WTA ranking system, even if it's easier. I could do the WTA employing a similar system given time and desire, but I do think that TheBoiledEgg is already doing an awesome job on the TennisForum.
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Old 08-13-2012, 09:23 AM   #243
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No WTA equivalent. I don't really watch WTA that much and not even fully understand the WTA ranking system, even if it's easier. I could do the WTA employing a similar system given time and desire, but I do think that TheBoiledEgg is already doing an awesome job on the TennisForum.
I wouldn`t say, there is as much logic for me sometimes as in WTA tennis.
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Old 08-13-2012, 09:36 AM   #244
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It's already there. I could rename it to Week Change to drop out the confusion. Right now, it's called +/- 06.08.2012 (or whatever the last official Monday was).

In the detailed downloadable table you can even see the last Monday's official ranking. It's hidden in the image.
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new ranking entries from this week (13 august 2012):

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1077	Stephen Hoh (AUS)		28.02.1991
1270	Olivier Charroin (FRA)		10.03.1982
1390	Mikelis Libietis (LAT)		09.07.1992
1390	Kevin King (USA)		28.02.1991
1419	Arjun Kadhe (IND)		07.01.1994
1551	Philipp Dittmer (GER)		11.03.1991
1551	Ryan Lipman (USA)		10.10.1990
1551	Krisjanis Stabins (LAT)		28.06.1989
1551	Leonardo Reami Da Cunha (BRA)	01.03.1992
1551	Jeroen Vanneste (BEL)		17.01.1994
1651	Ryan Thomas (AUS)		25.01.1986
1651	Noah Rubin (USA)		21.02.1996
1651	Myles Orton (GBR)		23.03.1994
1651	Lloyd Glasspool (GBR)		19.11.1993
1843	Uros Petronijevic (SRB)		21.03.1993
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Old 08-13-2012, 05:48 PM   #246
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best/worst movers of this week for top 100/200/500:

best movers top 100:
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Rank	Week Change	Name				Birthdate
82	+23		Adrian Ungur (ROU)		25.01.1985
84	+19		Simone Bolelli (ITA)		08.10.1985
95	+15		Roberto Bautista-Agut (ESP)	14.04.1988
85	+12		Flavio Cipolla (ITA)		20.10.1983
38	+9		Jeremy Chardy (FRA)		12.02.1987
71	+9		Matthew Ebden (AUS)		26.11.1987
13	+8		Richard Gasquet (FRA)		18.06.1986
59	+7		Fabio Fognini (ITA)		24.05.1987
75	+7		Jurgen Zopp (EST)		29.03.1988
29	+6		Sam Querrey (USA)		07.10.1987
63	+6		Mikhail Kukushkin (KAZ)		26.12.1987
worst movers top 100:
Code:
Rank	Week Change	Name				Birthdate
91	-18		Malek Jaziri (TUN)		20.01.1984
86	-11		Michael Llodra (FRA)		18.05.1980
45	-8		Carlos Berlocq (ARG)		03.02.1983
65	-8		Ivo Karlovic (CRO)		28.02.1979
20	-7		Mardy Fish (USA)		09.12.1981
35	-7		Gael Monfils (FRA)		01.09.1986
92	-7		Tobias Kamke (GER)		21.05.1986
97	-7		Jan Hajek (CZE)			07.08.1983
best movers top 200:
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Rank	Week Change	Name				Birthdate
169	+36		Robert Farah (COL)		20.01.1987
138	+30		Dusan Lajovic (SRB)		30.06.1990
188	+30		Arnau Brugues-Davi (ESP)	05.03.1985
82	+23		Adrian Ungur (ROU)		25.01.1985
84	+19		Simone Bolelli (ITA)		08.10.1985
95	+15		Roberto Bautista-Agut (ESP)	14.04.1988
119	+12		Michael Berrer (GER)		01.07.1980
183	+12		Jimmy Wang (TPE)		08.02.1985
196	+12		Josh Goodall (GBR)		17.10.1985
85	+12		Flavio Cipolla (ITA)		20.10.1983
162	+10		Jan Hernych (CZE)		07.07.1979
worst movers top 200:
Code:
Rank	Week Change	Name				Birthdate
167	-31		Paul Capdeville (CHI)		02.04.1983
143	-23		Ernests Gulbis (LAT)		30.08.1988
194	-23		Izak Van der Merwe (RSA)	26.01.1984
130	-19		Potito Starace (ITA)		14.07.1981
91	-18		Malek Jaziri (TUN)		20.01.1984
104	-18		Philipp Petzschner (GER)	24.03.1984
105	-16		Michael Russell (USA)		01.05.1978
116	-16		Ivan Dodig (CRO)		02.01.1985
86	-11		Michael Llodra (FRA)		18.05.1980
best movers top 500:
Code:
Rank	Week Change	Name				Birthdate
237	+141		Steve Johnson (USA)		24.12.1989
382	+112		Ilija Bozoljac (SRB)		02.08.1985
390	+82		N.Sriram Balaji (IND)		18.03.1990
489	+66		Bradley Klahn (USA)		20.08.1990
290	+64		Farrukh Dustov (UZB)		22.05.1986
438	+61		Marin Bradaric (CRO)		05.09.1985
302	+45		Oleksandr Nedovyesov (UKR)	15.02.1987
274	+40		David Guez (FRA)		08.12.1982
387	+38		Saketh Myneni (IND)		19.10.1987
375	+36		Yannik Reuter (BEL)		06.03.1991
169	+36		Robert Farah (COL)		20.01.1987
worst movers top 500:
Code:
Rank	Week Change	Name				Birthdate
265	-44		Marc Gicquel (FRA)		30.03.1977
487	-43		Vladimir Ivanov (EST)		10.04.1987
439	-39		Carsten Ball (AUS)		20.06.1987
440	-37		Miljan Zekic (SRB)		12.07.1988
321	-36		Tennys Sandgren (USA)		22.07.1991
385	-34		Greg Ouellette (USA)		19.05.1986
413	-32		Benjamin Balleret (MON)		15.01.1983
167	-31		Paul Capdeville (CHI)		02.04.1983
481	-31		Karan Rastogi (IND)		08.10.1986
490	-31		Ranjeet Virali-Murugesan (IND)	30.09.1985
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good stats beta2k! maybe you can open other threath only with that stats?
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As of August 13 results

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good stats beta2k! maybe you can open other threath only with that stats?
thx, would make sense. maybe even more people see it then. i'll do that later and call it maybe something like "weekly ATP Ranking stats". maybe it could get sticky? i'll contact some mods about that.. thx for the input!
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Updated with the results of August 13th.
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I have a question:
Next year Fed won't be commited to play any 1000-masters.

Due to the rules he is allowed to skip 2 masters-1000 without penalty this year, but he got zero points for toronto into his ranking.
What advantage does this punishment-free skipping of masters brings him - someone who says he's tired and can't play the mandatory event will get the same "penalty"?!

And what about next year if he won't play any masters?
- will he get 8 0-pointer in the ranking or
- will get rid of the "commited-player"-status and the best results will be counted?
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A question that I haven't been able to find the answer to:

How are ties in ranking points broken? For example, if two guys have 1000 points in the standings, how is it determined who would be 39th and who would be 40th?
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A question that I haven't been able to find the answer to:

How are ties in ranking points broken? For example, if two guys have 1000 points in the standings, how is it determined who would be 39th and who would be 40th?
Based on combined Masters and Slam points who has the most. then if same least number of tournaments and if still the same who has the highest point from a single tournament.


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I have a question:
Next year Fed won't be commited to play any 1000-masters.

Due to the rules he is allowed to skip 2 masters-1000 without penalty this year, but he got zero points for toronto into his ranking.
What advantage does this punishment-free skipping of masters brings him - someone who says he's tired and can't play the mandatory event will get the same "penalty"?!

And what about next year if he won't play any masters?
- will he get 8 0-pointer in the ranking or
- will get rid of the "commited-player"-status and the best results will be counted?
The is exception is only for money penalty, not for points. If his in the entry list of a Masters and he skips he will have a 0 pointer.
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The is exception is only for money penalty, not for points. If his in the entry list of a Masters and he skips he will have a 0 pointer.
Ok, the entry list is the important thing. And you have to enter or not 6 weeks before the start (if you have the choice).
Normally you'll be automatically entered if you are in the top 30, arent'you?
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Monfils has only fallen to 39th which is incredible since he hasnt been healthy since Doha.
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