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Old 06-15-2012, 05:59 PM   #16
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Raonic is impressive. Roger does not get aced that much often. He is one of those guys that needs to meet Rafa in Round 1
considering he can't face Rafa until round 4 I don't like the chances of him drawing Rafa in round 1
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Default Re: Halle QF: Federer def. Raonic 6-7 6-4 7-6

haha what a mug this raonic, losing in 3 to olderer again. not even with 26 aces could he win
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How was Roger 'lucky' to win this as some posters are claiming?
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Murray is so overrated. Reaches the SF of the slams everytime and still can't win.
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Would you not agree that Raonic really should have won atleast one of these matches against Federer?
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Would you not agree that Raonic really should have won atleast one of these matches against Federer?
I don't think he is good enough to defeat Federer honestly (In Madrid he had his best chance). He holds serve easily but if Roger breaks him you know the set is over (like the second one today) and it's not easy to win two tie-breaks against Federer although he is not at his best.
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How was Roger 'lucky' to win this as some posters are claiming?
When Roger wins, its because he was lucky. And when Rafa or Nole wins, its because they played great.
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Default Re: Halle QF: Federer def. Raonic 6-7 6-4 7-6

takes the hard route again but Milos is a great player too .He will go far
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Default Re: Halle QF: Federer def. Raonic 6-7 6-4 7-6

Federer won 83% of points in his second serve, that's all you need to know.

Milos needs to work on his return and ground game, serve isn't enough to be a top player. He's not Karlovic, but his ground game and return aren't at the required level for a top player yet.
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Default Re: Halle QF: Federer def. Raonic 6-7 6-4 7-6

Great win for Fed, losing a set in a breaker is irrelevent in my opinion given that he never faced a break point and made only 12 unforced errors.
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Default Re: Halle QF: Federer def. Raonic 6-7 6-4 7-6

Raonic is a dangerous player on grass in a best out of 3 set match with his serve alone. He almost won today without having a break point against Federer. He is one of the few players that has the ability to win a match without breaking his opponent.

Still, when he doesn't get the first serve in, he is vulnerable on normal faster lower bouncing grass like Halle. The lower and sometimes inconsistent bounces are difficult for him to handle. Can he improve? Probably a bit, but I think his size just works against him. Though he is mobile enough to reach a lot of balls side to side, he has difficulty changing direction, and his footwork when the ball is hit at him is a bit slow. He should do better on faster hard courts.

I think he could do ok at Wimbledon if it plays the way the grass has played recently (higher bouncing), but best of 5 sets still works against him. His service has to be on for 3 sets. Usually the top players can eventually get a good read after a set, and his ground game just isn't good enough yet against top competition. Let's see how he progresses in the next 3 years. He is certainly one of the top youngsters at the moment. I also like what I saw of David Goffin in Paris. He looks like he has a game that will translate well to grass or hard courts.

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Federer won 83% of points in his second serve, that's all you need to know.

Milos needs to work on his return and ground game, serve isn't enough to be a top player. He's not Karlovic, but his ground game and return aren't at the required level for a top player yet.
Milos didn't have his A forehand going today which he really needs against the top players. Alot of those 2nd serves were right in Milos' wheelhouse, and he kept missing them.
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Federer won 83% of points in his second serve, that's all you need to know.
Federer was lucky to have a opponent like Raonic in QF who is just a serve-bot. Raonic doesn't know how to return a serve and that's why Federer won 83% of points in his second serve.

So that's not enough for some people.
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