not me. i will take a healthy clay warrior with no knee issues and keep him a long time in the sport than to have him destroy his knees chasing hard court slams and have him exit the sport in a year or 2.
I agree. Not sure I worded it correctly. I want Clay Warrior playing as long as possible. He needs to protect his knees. And if he could find a way to win 3 more RG and 3 more Wimbledons, that would be remarkable.
he has been wrecking his knees on hard courts ever since he was 17.
now the time has to come be extremely careful. but he is not going to listen to anybody way.
he has had an indoor hard court installed for him in mallorca so he can wreck his knees year around.
and i have seen zero improvements from him. zero. he had not won a title in nealry 11 months until he arrived in monte carlo.
so all that work on hard courts is producing exactly nothing but damaged knees.
it took clay to straighten out his ground game just in time to snatch that 7th RG title.
I'm conflicted on all this. You have to admire his dedication. He wants to keep improving and his weakness is hard courts, so he is trying to improve that part of his game at all costs (perhaps to his detriment). You can argue his time would be better spent staying healthy so he can win 10 RG titles. But that's not how he works. I don't think he'd be happy doing that because it would be him giving up . He likes challenges and he likes finding a way to overcome them.
It's frustrating in a way, but I think we need to realize that this part of his character (his single minded focus) is a huge reason why he has been this successful. It's his relentless focus and drive that is the main reason he has 7 RG titles. It's why he has a career grand slam. I'm not sure I'd want that part of him to change if I'm being honest. He's not clay warrior without it.
Finally a voice of reason. I've been trying to argue this all day. 7 aussie open titles is not going to happen. Maybe Novak gets to 4 or 5. 7 would require him to win 4 of the next 5 years through this 30th birthday. Impossible.
Actually if he wins the next 4 AO's he'll be age 28.
Not impossible but highly improbable. Rafa was really close this year. I'd give him a slight edge next year. I think Nole will win two more AO's. That's not a slam that produces dominant champions a la Wimbledon/RG.
The AO is the most difficult Slam to dominate. It's the first Slam of the year and the more physical one; while Nadal, Murray and co. around Novak will have to keep putting in 10 hours+ in semi + final to win this tournament, since the surface is so slow that it's impossible to hit through, grindathons are an inevitability.
So yeah, he won't get to 7, but if he did it'd be one of the greatest records in tennis for sure. This is by far the most difficult Slam venue to dominate.
Why did this thread turn into RN worshipping exercise again...
I think he can get to 7 but he'll need to be playing his best at the beginning of the year and he seems like a sort of player who does that - similar to Safin and Agassi in a way. However, it would be tough. He can definitely get to 5 and even 7 if he can improve his serve.
On winning DC and its overall importance in the discussion for all-time greats
Originally Posted by Orbis
Davis Cup should never have really mattered in the GOAT discussion anyway since it's a team event. If you're talking about the GOAT singles player then you should mainly look at individual results. If some unknown talent came out of some random tiny country (no chance to win DC) and won 20 slams, no one would give a single shit if that player didn't have DC. The fact is, success in DC is largely determined by what country you come from or play for in the first place, which most players haven't had any control over.
The Golden Era of Novak: Australian Open * Dubai * Indian Wells * Miami * Belgrade * Madrid * Rome * Wimbledon * Montreal * US Open * Abu Dhabi * Australian Open * Miami * Toronto * China * Shanghai * World Tour Finals 2012 * Australian Open 2013 * Dubai * Montecarlo * Beijing * Shanghai * Paris * WTF * Indian Wells * Miami * Rome * WIMBLEDON 2014 * AUSSIE OPEN 2015
Federer to Nole: "Amazing year. Amazing tournament. Amazing match. You are THE BEST!"
Originally Posted by: Toni Nadal
Rafael has won more titles than Novak Djokovic, but speaking merely about tennis and about the game, Rafa has to be considered slightly lower than Djokovic. The Serb is such a good player that he is as close as you can get to Roger Federer