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Old 06-09-2012, 06:02 PM   #1
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Default Is Djokovic the favorite for Wimbledon + Olympics?

Novak Djokovic is the world number 1, and he will remain number 1 at least until Wimby. Despite that, grass is still his worst surface.
Rafael Nadal and Roger Federer are in his way. Federer is career-wise the best grass player of the 3 by far, but is past his prime and has big time mental issues against the top 2. Nadal is at his prime age, but has lost his 3 last GS finals to Djokovic, and is not as brilliant on grass as he is on slow surfaces (still better on grass than Djokovic, though).

The reason I'm asking is because I saw some odds on a betting site about those grass tournaments, and let's say it doesn't look to smart to me.

Wimbledon
Djokovic - 3.00
Nadal - 3.50
Federer - 5.00

Olympics
Djokovic - 2.50
Nadal - 3.50
Federer - 4.00

Am I the only one who thinks that way, or is it a way to make some money because people on this site are silly?
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No way should Djoko be favorite. He's not that good on grass. He was in god mode pretty much all last year, and he really does not have that this year. He's not that good on grass. Even if injured, I'd take odds on fedex
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No way should Djoko be favorite. He's not that good on grass. He was in god mode pretty much all last year, and he really does not have that this year. He's not that good on grass. Even if injured, I'd take odds on fedex
Yeah but than really the odds are dumb. Should I put something on Fedal?
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Well, Djokovic is #1, defending champions, and has been almost impossible to take down at Slams, coming back from seemingly impossible positions. It's normal he's considered the favorite. I reckon that if Rafa wins tomorrow the odds will definitely see a shift, with Rafa becoming the odds-on favorite.

I'm really tempted to put some money on Rafa right now though; those odds are almost too good to pass on.

Federer is a bit overrated if anything imo, he has really struggled on grass in the past two years even in early rounds and lost to the first big hitting players he faced. I suppose he could show better form on the surface this year, we'll know more when he faces Nadal/Berdych at Halle, but as of right now I'd definitely not put any money on him, even at those odds.
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No, and no. Federer and Nadal are much superior grass court players, and they both have a better winning percentage (90%+ to Djoko's 86%) overall this year.
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No, and no. Federer and Nadal are much superior grass court players, and they both have a better winning percentage (90%+ to Djoko's 86%) overall this year.
You'd have Federer as a favourite over Djokovic were they too meet?

Seriously?
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Can anyone be considered a top favourite for Olympics?In best of 3 set matches on grass it`s tough to make predictions.Any top guy can lose 7-6 7-6 to someone like Isner or any big hitter who gets on a lucky streak
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It all depends on the RG result.
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You'd have Federer as a favourite over Djokovic were they too meet?

Seriously?
If it came to it, yes. Fed's serve was atrocious in Rome and RG, but, assuming it's back to normal by Wimbledon, it should be enough to get him through Djokovic on grass.
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If it came to it, yes. Fed's serve was atrocious in Rome and RG, but, assuming it's back to normal by Wimbledon, it should be enough to get him through Djokovic.
I'm shocked by that. Got to assume your a Fed fan as normally your posts are really good and make a lot of sense.

It might not be Novak's best surface, but he's too far in front of Federer nowadays. If this match was taking place with Federer in his prime, he wins, but not now.
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I'm shocked by that. Got to assume your a Fed fan as normally your posts are really good and make a lot of sense.

It might not be Novak's best surface, but he's too far in front of Federer nowadays. If this match was taking place with Federer in his prime, he wins, but not now.
I disagree. The incredible form Federer had sustained ever since Basel last year dropped dramatically after the back injury in Madrid (all of his stats plummetted, especially the serve). Rome and RG therefore aren't a true indication of how he will do against Djokovic at Wimbledon. Look at the two matches preceding this clay season (RG 2011 and USO 2011), and you'll see why an improved Federer (assuming he gets his form back), especially on grass, will be able to beat Novak.

Also, the fact that Federer has a 90% winning percentage for this year, over Djokovic at 86%, should tell you that Fed isn't actually that far behind him at all.
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olympics is best of 3 sets foremat until the final.

i pick Fed for the olympics.
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I'm shocked by that. Got to assume your a Fed fan as normally your posts are really good and make a lot of sense.

It might not be Novak's best surface, but he's too far in front of Federer nowadays. If this match was taking place with Federer in his prime, he wins, but not now.
I'd definitely still put Fed as favourite (not by much) against Nole on grass. But it would be very interesting - it's amazing they've never met on the surface actually.
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I disagree. The incredible form Federer had sustained ever since Basel last year dropped dramatically after the injury in Madrid (all of his stats plummetted, especially the serve). Rome and RG therefore aren't a true indication of how he will do against Djokovic at Wimbledon. Look at the two matches preceding this clay season (RG 2011 and USO 2011), and you'll see why an improved Federer (assuming he gets his form back), especially on grass, will be able to beat Novak.
Since 2011 he's won 7 of their last 8 meetings.

You're assuming that a) Fed's form will improve and that b) he could beat Novak over the course of a 5 set match - I don't think there's a whole lot of evidence to suggest that would be the case other than the USO 2011. That in itself was a match that Novak made really hard work of. He had double the number of break points compared to Federer, won a lot more points and really should have won quite easily.

I wonder what injury you are alluding too? Surely were he injured, he'd have just missed Rome out?

There's no doubt in my mind that Federer on his best beats Novak on grass, but right now he doesn't have the game for it imo.
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