[inez]

I know it hasn't been voted on yet - but that's the point I'm making - he WILL vote for it for the reasons you have stated...regardless of his personal opinion which he would clearly never state in Russia.....and I know that he doesn't read here anymore - I just want to call shame on him when he does .... vote, that is...because - as i said, how COULD he?

[mer]

Originally Posted by inez

I know it hasn't been voted on yet - but that's the point I'm making - he WILL vote for it for the reasons you have stated...regardless of his personal opinion which he would clearly never state in Russia.....and I know that he doesn't read here anymore - I just want to call shame on him when he does .... vote, that is...because - as i said, how COULD he?

well, after he and others have voted for adoption ban (even though half of them didn't want to) I don't have any question left. Compared to the law dooming many orphans to rotting alive here the law against gays is pretty innocent one.

[inez]

Originally Posted by mer

well, after he and others have voted for adoption ban (even though half of them didn't want to) I don't have any question left. Compared to the law dooming many orphans to rotting alive here the law against gays is pretty innocent one.

I know....what is happening is frightening and very sad - but frankly, both pieces of legislation - if you can call it that - are EQUALLY oppressive and without rational.... the orphans will still be there, and people will still be homosexual....passing some dumb-ass 'law' is not going to change that - its just TRAGIC for the Russian people - the Kremlin wants them to remain uneducated peasants for all eternity - holy mother of god - may they all rot in hell !!
(copy and paste THAT to "marat"'s twitter account, , U-u/Puzzel )

[mer]

Originally Posted by inez

I know....what is happening is frightening and very sad - but frankly, both pieces of legislation - if you can call it that - are EQUALLY oppressive and without rational

Russia is a very homophobic country. There won't be any significant changes for gays in Russia after the law is passed. In a way it might help those who want to leave Russia to get assylum in EU. Also, Russia will end up facing humilition of having to pay back after European HR court will rule in favour of russians fined for "propaganda"
Anti-adoption law is simply a death sentnce for many children. This is horrific.

[mikomonstr]

Thank you, Monkey! I just saw this pic today and snagged it and put it on Twitter. Dammit, wish he would have just gone into coaching and commentating.

[mer]

Since Marat is going to vote for new anti-gay law soon to be passed in Duma, I decided I have to post it here.

How did there come to be a law in the Duma that forbids justifying homosexuality? Until now, the only thing you were forbidden to justify in my country was terrorism. Well, there you have it. So as far as the deputies are concerned I am not a human being in the same sense that they are; I am to be classed as scum, like a terrorist. As far as the deputies are concerned I am scum by the fact of my birth, and it was criminal negligence not to have made a note of that in my birth certificate. What seemed like a bad dream only a couple of years ago has now become reality. And it is terrifying to imagine what could happen tomorrow.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisf...d-to-terrorism

[monkey247]

Thanks, mer, that's a shocking read. I wonder how many State Duma members are still in the closet.

In case anyone's interested, here's Marat's voting page for the bill banning promotion of homosexuality among minors, № 44554-6. I think there will be a further reading on 25 May after any proposed amendments have been made.

Subject pages on Russian Gazette and Gazeta.ru.

So Marat tweeted this very morning about raising the legal alcohol-purchasing age in Russia to 21. Didn't he once say, when he was much younger, that he couldn't live in the USA ("Oh, so you want me to kill myself?" etc.) because their laws didn't allow him to drink beer? I'm sure he found a way, though, just like every other kid in Russia will ...

[MariaV]

Originally Posted by mer

Since Marat is going to vote for new anti-gay law soon to be passed in Duma, I decided I have to post it here.


http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisf...d-to-terrorism

Horrible, simply horrible.

[mer]

Originally Posted by monkey247

Thanks, mer, that's a shocking read. I wonder how many State Duma members are still in the closet.

I guess quite a lot. Rumors say that one of the closest to Putin officials is gay.
There are virtually no openly gay public figures in Russia. The first one I know of is this guy who wrote this article. And there was another one -a singer who came out of the closet in the 90's.

Originally Posted by monkey247

In case anyone's interested, here's Marat's voting page for the bill banning promotion of homosexuality among minors

"promotion" of homosexuality sounded laughable, but now that went even further, now it's "justifying homosexuality" - this is pure fascism. I can't believe this is happening.

oh, and there is no point checking Marat's voting history. He voted for every single bill that was and will be passed. That's how Duma works.