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Aim for semis (more time to prepare for grass season) 0 0%
Aim for final (possible fatigue, but points defended) 1 8.33%
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Old 05-23-2012, 03:05 PM   #1
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Default Should Federer aim for just a semi-final at the French Open?

If Federer reaches the final of Roland Garros this year, precedent suggests that he will lose to Nadal and then be too worn out to play in Halle the following week.

So my question is, should he aim for just a semi-final at the French and then deliberately bow out so that he has more recupe-time for the grass season? Getting some matchplay in before Wimbledon proved really beneficial between 04-09, and in fact the only year he didn't win Wimbledon after winning Halle was 2008.

Or should he throw his all into RG, remembering that last year he knocked out a highly dangerous Djokovic in the semis, and pushed Nadal more than he had ever done before in the final? On that note, will his recent victories over Nadal in the World Tour Finals and Indian Wells (also first set of Aus Open), where he seemed to employ new tactics against the Spaniard, play any part in motivating him to try once more?

What do you think he should do?

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Old 05-23-2012, 03:07 PM   #2
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Default Re: Should Federer aim for just a semi-final at the French Open?

As a Fed fan, I have to agree with the SF option or even QF if he meets Nadull in the semis. to avoid anymore embarrassment.
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Old 05-23-2012, 03:08 PM   #3
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Default Re: Should Federer aim for just a semi-final at the French Open?

No great player should tank a GS semi, but he should go into the event thinking semis would be a decent result.
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Old 05-23-2012, 03:09 PM   #4
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Federer tank a Grand Slam SF? Yeah, not happening.
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Old 05-23-2012, 03:09 PM   #5
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Embarrassment?? What kind of Fed fans are you really?
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Ever played a sport? Would you tank a match if you were two wins away from a title? I can only speak for me and I would definitely not.
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Federer doesn't suffer embarrassment losing to nadull on RED clay because nadull is simply a better RED clay player and is supposed to win. The embarrassment if u want to call it that is when he loses on HC. Although losing to ur toughest rival is hardly embarrassing.
About the thread if it plays fast go for the title , if it's slow get the hell out ASAP.
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Ever played a sport? Would you tank a match if you were two wins away from a title? I can only speak for me and I would definitely not.
But at least then the outcome is in your control... Putting absolutely all of your strength and energy (both mentally and physically) into a match which goes the distance but which you ultimately lose must surely have an impact on your self-belief (especially after it's happened so many times before)? I just don't want a repeat of 2008.
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Default Re: Should Federer aim for just a semi-final at the French Open?

Like I said in another thread before.
You're not a fan if you don't want your player to always win and give his best.
I don't care about tomorrow having a today, I want Federer to give 300% in the semis, even vs Nadal.
I want Roger to defeat Rafa in semis and then Novak in the finals, I don't care if you all say it's impossible. If you don't believe in Federer, what's tennis then?
Federer is the only one you can believe if you like tennis and if you're a FedFan.

Come on, Roger. Best effort in every tournament, 4 in the year is pretty good, but you can do better.
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If Federer reaches the final of Roland Garros this year, precedent suggests that he will lose to Nadal and then be too worn out to play in Halle the following week.

So my question is, should he aim for just a semi-final at the French and then deliberately bow out so that he has more recupe-time for the grass season? Getting some matchplay in before Wimbledon proved really beneficial between 04-09, and in fact the only year he didn't win Wimbledon after winning Halle was 2008.
I don't have the same opinion on the benefits of Halle : in 2010 he caught a leg problem there which caused him problems in Wimbledon.

And generally about the benefits of playing many matches on grass in a row.

In 2009, he looked completely undynamic in Wimbledon final while he had played great before.

In 2011, not playing Halle, he started Wimbledon great then also lost his dynamism.

Then I'm not sure it's really better for him to play matches on grass before Wimbledon.

The problem on grasss is that he has to be low on his legs and it seems that he had some problems to sustain that for a long time.

Then the way you ask the question, I would rather say "reach the final of Roland-Garros ... to be too worn-out to play in Halle"

That's my feeling, of course I know many will not share it.

And anyway if you consider my opinion, the best would have been ... not to enter Halle at all ! (like Djokovic actually)

Not sure if he's not a prisoner of the so-called "contract" he has with the director of Halle.
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I just don't want a repeat of 2008.
Fed has gone far beyond how his mind was in 2008 imo : I don't think his confidence can be hurt for Wimbledon by a loss in Roland-Garros now.
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Fed has gone far beyond how his mind was in 2008 imo : I don't think his confidence can be hurt for Wimbledon by a loss in Roland-Garros now.
Very true. Roger was in fact relieved off all stress once he finally won the 2009 french. Everything since then has just been cream. I don't think he'll tank but as Softy (Sophocles) said a few posts back, even semis would be a great result.
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Embarrassment?? What kind of Fed fans are you really?
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Ever played a sport? Would you tank a match if you were two wins away from a title? I can only speak for me and I would definitely not.
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Like I said in another thread before.
You're not a fan if you don't want your player to always win and give his best.
I don't care about tomorrow having a today, I want Federer to give 300% in the semis, even vs Nadal.
I want Roger to defeat Rafa in semis and then Novak in the finals, I don't care if you all say it's impossible. If you don't believe in Federer, what's tennis then?
Federer is the only one you can believe if you like tennis and if you're a FedFan.

Come on, Roger. Best effort in every tournament, 4 in the year is pretty good, but you can do better.
And This.

I seriously cannot understand 'fans' who would like to see their fav tank a match because of there perhaps being an even bigger task ahead...
Do you folks really believe that Roger would ever have gotten to 16 GS titles with that kind of an attitude?

It's even more peculiar to see these claims come from the same folks who say that "H2H's don't matter". If such is the case, why bother about him losing to a Nadal or a Djokovic?
No logic there if you ask me.

Best of luck Rog at RG.
Whatever the outcome, I trust he'll try his best.
But please no losses to Berdych, Tsonga, Gasquet, or Gulbis, eh.
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But please no losses to Berdych, Tsonga, Gasquet, or Gulbis, eh.
Today, Federer can only lose to Nadal or Djokovic, and I don't think it's guaranteed, even vs Rafa in slow clay.
I dunno why, but I see Fed very motivated and hungry.

I know, he lost vs Isner on Davis Cup, Dunny why, I don't consider that match a "2012 loss".
And the match vs Roddick... That was from another planet. Roddick played his best match since Wimbledon 2009 (I know he was finalist-winner in IW-Miami 2010, but he didn't played that good as this match).
Roddick was ultra-motivated, he didn't wanted Fed to be 20 matches ahead on H2H, and it's understandable for a great player as Roddick.

I'm pretty sure Fed wont lose vs any player different than Nadal and Djokovic if he really cares about the tournament.

I think SF are a fact. And today I feel a kinda weird sensation, I think he's gonna reach the final. Maybe tomorrow that's sensation's gone. But I wanna express and write it in the forum today.

Today, I think Fed's gonna reach the final, even in a Fedal semi. Don't ask me why, that's what I feel.
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Today, Federer can only lose to Nadal or Djokovic, and I don't think it's guaranteed, even vs Rafa in slow clay.
I dunno why, but I see Fed very motivated and hungry.

I know, he lost vs Isner on Davis Cup, Dunny why, I don't consider that match a "2012 loss".
And the match vs Roddick... That was from another planet. Roddick played his best match since Wimbledon 2009 (I know he was finalist-winner in IW-Miami 2010, but he didn't played that good as this match).
Roddick was ultra-motivated, he didn't wanted Fed to be 20 matches ahead on H2H, and it's understandable for a great player as Roddick.

I'm pretty sure Fed wont lose vs any player different than Nadal and Djokovic if he really cares about the tournament.

I think SF are a fact. And today I feel a kinda weird sensation, I think he's gonna reach the final. Maybe tomorrow that's sensation's gone. But I wanna express and write it in the forum today.

Today, I think Fed's gonna reach the final, even in a Fedal semi. Don't ask me why, that's what I feel.
Like your attitude! Its sentimental Noletards are becoming worse than Rafatards. I can admit Rafa beat Fed in his prime regularly even in outdoor hardcourts. Novak NEVER beat prime Roger in Grand Slams. Even Aus 2008 Fed had mono. Now they think Novak is a better player What is next I sometimes wonder
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