[luie]

Birdshit will win something yea right. The only title he won of worth is Paris 2006 and in those days fed n nadull never played Paris. His Paris title is like a MM title. He got straight setted at Wimby , in the final. He is just a bye for nadull. He should retire and move to Mallorca to spend more time with his boyfriend, instead of traveling around the world giving him byes.

[v-money]

It must be said that Ferrer is up 5-3 in the H2H.

[luie]

Ferrer has a better record on HC slams than Birdshit the choking clown. Ferrer has 2 HC SF and one final at the WTF , when he reaches this stage it usually takes an elite player to take him out. Novak, USO 07 , Murray AO 11 , fed shanghai 07 . Birdshit never passed the QF of a HC slam. And gets beaten by random nobodies.

[Otlichno]

Anything to undermine Ferrer's obvious superiority.

[Mark Lenders]

Originally Posted by luie

Ferrer has a better record on HC slams than Birdshit the choking clown. Ferrer has 2 HC SF and one final at the WTF , when he reaches this stage it usually takes an elite player to take him out. Novak, USO 07 , Murray AO 11 , fed shanghai 07 . Birdshit never passed the QF of a HC slam. And gets beaten by random nobodies.

Berdych is better than Ferrer on hardcourts - he has a Masters title in Paris 2004, better than anything Ferrer did on the surface.

Berdych is better than Ferrer on grass - Wimbledon final trumps everything Ferrer ever did on grass put together

Berdych is better than Ferrer on clay - no Masters titles for either, but Berdych actually reached the semifinals at Roland Garros (and only lost in 5) unlike Ferrer.

[Kat_YYZ]

Originally Posted by v-money

It must be said that Ferrer is up 5-3 in the H2H.

[Johnny Groove]

Ferrer leads 5-3 in the H2H, so

True Berdych's peak level is better, but Pics is more consistent.

[v-money]

Also their performances against the top4 are really not all that different:

Ferrer: 13W-40L 24.5% win percentage (despite the 0-13 against Fed)
Berdych: 12W-34L 26.1% win percentage

Who really cares if Berdych has more potential or a higher peak level if he can't live up to it. Results matter too, and these guys have very comparable results.

I've already said that I think Berdych is better but don't let Mark Clownders fool you into thinking that this is not even an argument and Ferrer is a terrible player. Ferrer has achieved a lot in his career, which is even more impressive considering what he's working with.

[Mark Lenders]

Originally Posted by v-money

Also their performances against the top4 are really not all that different:

Ferrer: 13W-40L 24.5% win percentage (despite the 0-13 against Fed)
Berdych: 12W-34 26.1% win percentage

Who really cares if Berdych has more potential or a higher peak level if he can't live up to it. Results matter too, and these guys have very comparable results.

I've already said that I think Berdych is better but don't let Mark Clownders fool you into thinking that this is not even an argument and Ferrer is a terrible player. Ferrer has achieved a lot in his career, which is even more impressive considering what he's working with.

Brilliant

That said, Berdych's results at Grand Slams and Masters tournaments are much better as well. Only criteria where Ferrer wins is results at Mickey Mouse clay tournaments.

[luie]

Originally Posted by Mark Lenders

Berdych is better than Ferrer on hardcourts - he has a Masters title in Paris 2004, better than anything Ferrer did on the surface.

Berdych is better than Ferrer on grass - Wimbledon final trumps everything Ferrer ever did on grass put together

Berdych is better than Ferrer on clay - no Masters titles for either, but Berdych actually reached the semifinals at Roland Garros (and only lost in 5) unlike Ferrer.

Birdshit is a clown always is and always will be. He won Paris because of no competition . If fed was absent for WTF in 07 ferrer would have had a HC title , I guess Birdshit is lucky no one gives a damn about Paris in those days. He! He! Birdshit the clown never made it past a GS QF on Hard court , he never beat an elite player at a HC slam .Ferrer. Beat nadull 2 times in a HC slam.
His master request his services in Mallorca .

[v-money]

Originally Posted by Mark Lenders

Brilliant

That said, Berdych's results at Grand Slams and Masters tournaments are much better as well. Only criteria where Ferrer wins is results at Mickey Mouse clay tournaments.

I thought you'd like it

[Mark Lenders]

Originally Posted by luie

Birdshit is a clown always is and always will be. He won Paris because of no competition . If fed was absent for WTF in 07 ferrer would have had a HC title , I guess Birdshit is lucky no one gives a damn about Paris in those days. He! He! Birdshit the clown never made it past a GS QF on Hard court , he never beat an elite player at a HC slam .Ferrer. Beat nadull 2 times in a HC slam.
His master request his services in Mallorca .

You're not making a good case for Ferrer. If a clown can make a Slam final and win a Masters tournaments and he can't, Ferrer is even worse/more overrated than I initially thought.

[Pirata.]

Originally Posted by Otlichno

Anything to undermine Ferrer's obvious superiority.

Originally Posted by v-money

Who really cares if Berdych has more potential or a higher peak level if he can't live up to it. Results matter too, and these guys have very comparable results.

Should be a required post in every "who is better" thread.

[Mark Lenders]

Originally Posted by v-money

I thought you'd like it

I did. Although I was slightly surprised. Always thought the first time people would 'adapt' my user name on this forum it'd be introducing MTF's trademark mug.

But I guess clown is good too

[Otlichno]

Originally Posted by Kat_YYZ

The tongue.

He should win just because of his ridiculous level of hotness.