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Nadal more than 15 matches ahead. 107 40.07%
Nadal 13-14 matches ahead. 25 9.36%
Nadal 11-12 matches ahead. 19 7.12%
Nadal 9-10 matches ahead. 20 7.49%
Nadal 7-8 matches ahead. 20 7.49%
Nadal 5-6 matches ahead. 19 7.12%
Nadal 3-4 matches ahead. 5 1.87%
Nadal 1-2 matches ahead. 1 0.37%
Equal 4 1.50%
Federer ahead 47 17.60%
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Old 11-26-2012, 08:43 PM   #1246
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what is talent?
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Of course he is, most players are more talented than Federer. In fact, Nadal is so talented that he's been able to win 11 slams with his weaker hand. That's something Federer can only dream of.
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In some aspects, yes. I'm sure Fed has no talent whatsoever in the department of ass-picking.
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Old 11-26-2012, 08:55 PM   #1250
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I've said it many times : I think so, yes. Nadal is a freakish talent and the effect of work on his results is overrated, Fed is not as impressive and the effect of work on his results is underrated.
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please could you define on which kind of talent have you meant ?
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I've said it many times : I think so, yes. Nadal is a freakish talent.


Very surprising coming from a Fed fan I must say. Well, In terms of tennis ability, Fed is more gifted. However in terms of athletic ability, Nadal is way more gifted than him.
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Yes, in ass picking, timewasting, faking injuries, bumping into oponents, fist pumping, vamosing and whining.

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Default Re: Is Nadal more talented than Federer?

Nadal hasn`t Federer`s touch. Not even close. Though you can give tennis talent hundred definitions and all of them would be different and to some extent correct the same time.
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please could you define on which kind of talent have you meant ?
Not just tennis talent. Athletic talent too. Can anyone become a physical beast with freakish movement by just working as hard as Nadal? The clear answer is no.
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Very surprising coming from a Fed fan I must say. Well, In terms of tennis ability, Fed is more gifted. However in terms of athletic ability, Nadal is way more gifted than him.
if you consider athletic ability, not only tennis ability, then I agree with you. Nadal is a beast athletically.
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I don't care if he's more talented or not, he's the better player and that's what counts.
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I rate someone's talent by his ability to adjust to unsuitable condition and in time when more or less everything suits to his style of play it's hard to talk about unbelievable talent. Could you imagine Nadal being so successful and comfortable on every kind of court 20 years ago ? I personally can't

I agree about physical talent. But this kind of talent could make him successful in other sports also. And how we are posting on tennis forum the obvious answer on your question is NO
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Very surprising coming from a Fed fan I must say. Well, In terms of tennis ability, Fed is more gifted. However in terms of athletic ability, Nadal is way more gifted than him.
look at the threads I started there is one or two about that.

Ahletic ability is a part of tennis ability imo. There are also some inner mental skills.

But yes the whole problem comes from the definition of "talent" : for me it means "natural gift", for others it mostly means "hand talent" ... as if anybody could reach a great physical or mental level just by work, I agree with you, that's completely wrong. And I think that many skills which are considered as "talent" are more about technique ... and technique can be worked about.

Tennis used to be much less physical and in that time the notion of "talent" which people usually have in tennis was much much more suitable. But tennis has completely changed : tennis is not a welcoming place for Nastases anymore.
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