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Nadal more than 15 matches ahead. 107 40.07%
Nadal 13-14 matches ahead. 25 9.36%
Nadal 11-12 matches ahead. 19 7.12%
Nadal 9-10 matches ahead. 20 7.49%
Nadal 7-8 matches ahead. 20 7.49%
Nadal 5-6 matches ahead. 19 7.12%
Nadal 3-4 matches ahead. 5 1.87%
Nadal 1-2 matches ahead. 1 0.37%
Equal 4 1.50%
Federer ahead 47 17.60%
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Old 08-08-2012, 02:44 PM   #1021
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Evilbulgaria. Doesn't grasp the simple concept of tennis , and playing styles. She is a run of the mill nadull tard in a unilateral fight with fed , that wouldn't make a difference either way.
Nadull is a grinder that uses a lot of top- spin . Federer is an agressive baseliner .
Nadulls weakness , power players that hit hard and flat . Thus robbing him of "time" to set up his shot. To impart his heavy top spin on the ball.
Federers weakness is balls high on his bh , he cannot hit an effective top spin bh from shoulder height , and player and their style that can get it high on the bh will trouble fed. Not just nadull.
For eg. Fed could not return Agassi kick serve to the bh at the USO 05. Federer has a lot of trouble against rafters kick serve.
Felix mantilla gave him fits on clay by keeping the ball high to his bh.
So in essence if Feds slams are tainted for not facing nadull post 2008 , because his weakness could not be exploited , the same brush can be used to paint nadull.
For starters he didn't play 1 power player en route to his HC slams.
So both fed and Nadulls slams are tainted because they never had an opportunity to overcome there greatest weakness.
That's a silly if argument.
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this evilmindbulgaria must have the lowest IQ on MTF, quite a feat
I must say, I really don't appreciate negative comments about the IQ of others. I disagree with these two constantly, but have no desire to characterize them personally. Go after their arguments instead. This is not particularly difficult.
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I must say, I really don't appreciate negative comments about the IQ of others. I disagree with these two constantly, but have no desire to characterize them personally. Go after their arguments instead. This is not particularly difficult.

They (I mean durrrr, Looner, Honestly, BigJohn and the likes...) don't have any real argumnets, that's the problem...
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They (I mean durrrr, Looner, Honestly, BigJohn and the likes...) don't have any real argumnets, that's the problem...
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They (I mean durrrr, Looner, Honestly, BigJohn and the likes...) don't have any real argumnets, that's the problem...
You mean there aren't any arguments to prove that Fed is simply greater than Nadal?
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They (I mean durrrr, Looner, Honestly, BigJohn and the likes...) don't have any real argumnets, that's the problem...
I can school you in live debate. I mean, that's probably true for most reasonable people if they were to argue in front of an audience of normal, rational people against a blind Dulltard.
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You mean there aren't any arguments to prove that Fed is simply greater than Nadal?
Apart from the Nadal/Fed H2H, what other relevant statistic could possibly be used?
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You mean there aren't any arguments to prove that Fed is simply greater than Nadal?

Dude, I never argued about that topic and this thread isn't about that question, either. Reading comprehension fails you again.
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They (I mean durrrr, Looner, Honestly, BigJohn and the likes...) don't have any real argumnets, that's the problem...
You nailed it perfectly, Matt! A bunch of vicious Federinatards full of irrational hate and coward excuses, just like their idol What a joy reading their insults and delusional claims. It only makes me

At the end of the day, all their hate is not going to magically turn the H2H around or give Federer a Career Golden Slam. The Federer-Nadal debates are indeed endless, just like the Fedtards will endlessly be reminded who owns their idol!
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Dude, I never argued about that topic and this thread isn't about that question, either. Reading comprehension fails you again.
Yep, same here. I dare the Fedtards find a post of mine where I claim that Nadal > Fed or that Nadal is the GOAT. But they are too blinded by worshipping their "God" and spewing hate towards the rest.
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You nailed it perfectly, Matt! A bunch of vicious Federinatards full of irrational hate and coward excuses, just like their idol What a joy reading their insults and delusional claims. It only makes me

At the end of the day, all their hate is not going to magically turn the H2H around or give Federer a Career Golden Slam. The Federer-Nadal debates are indeed endless, just like the Fedtards will endlessly be reminded who owns their idol!
Neither matters
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Neither matters
The fact that you and the rest of the Fedtards are all bent out of shape on this shows how much it actually matters
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