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Old 05-25-2012, 01:52 PM   #31
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Default Re: Un bref séjour en France - Andy at Roland Garros Thread

He shouldn't have even played this. Go RG if you must, then lose 1R (because he'll lose anyway), then head to the UK.
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Andy's RG draw:

R1 - Mahut
R2 - Dancevic/Klizan
R3 - Federer

First two round are not too bad in theory, but in practice every opponent is tough.

Just let's see what happen in Paris.
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He's playing a Frenchman on Lenglen, so, no chance
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Old 05-26-2012, 08:27 PM   #34
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You know what's sad? Even if Mahut is awful on clay, if Andy were to beat him that would be a monumental win. I mean, we'd all be like this if it happened.

I'd love to see him do it. He needs to get a win, any win, under his belt.
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I never thought Andy would be so pathetic at the end of his career. Always thought that he is more proud and won't let something like this happen. I really hope for this to end soon, one way or another...
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Default Re: Un bref séjour en France - Andy at Roland Garros Thread

I didn't think it would end in this pitiful way either. I hope he can salvage something at the end of the US Open series and then bow out gracefully.
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Old 05-27-2012, 04:55 PM   #37
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Good news, with RG out of the way, Andy's grass season officially begins.
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You can't really even be optimistic about grass, can you? If he's out of shape as everyone's saying, I don't see much changing in a couple weeks
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There is no optimism whatsoever for grass. No match play, he's not in shape, motivational issues, might be injured again (saw him clutch his thigh for a sec)...there is like, no hope of him doing anything worthwhile. At least he lost to Mahut, who I actually like.
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You can't really even be optimistic about grass, can you? If he's out of shape as everyone's saying, I don't see much changing in a couple weeks
Maybe not but the grass has to feel much better under his feet than clay.
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If this is the level effort he's going to put forth towards the grand slams, I think I'm just going to start a petition for him to retire. I mean seriously, no fire or drive...it's time for the commentary both.
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It's very possible Andy won't even be seeded at Wimbledon.........
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Playing clay before his body was ready may have killed his grass season prospects, whatever they were. At this point, perhaps he should focus on getting completely healthy first, then coming back to end his career on a higher note. I will be surprised if he keeps going after the USO.
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Uhhh... saw only the end of 3rd and whole 4th set yesterday and was very disappointed.

Alright, I didn't have any expectations for clay season anyway, but this turned out to be even worse than I thought, and I was actually being pessimistic before the clay season.

Movement is gone, he looks slower than ever. Groundstrokes don't have anything behind them, the shots are even more lightweight as we have been used to by watching his pushing in recent years, he cannot get so many balls back and makes every opponent's offense look better than it is. Nicolas wasn't even that good yesterday, I am almost completely sure that he will be destroyed by Martin Klizan in R2. Especially painful for me is the serve topic. It had gone from excellent to good in the recent years, but now it is almost a mediocre one. He gets much fewer cheap points from his serve than ever. In addition to that the desire is clearly not there. Yesterday after losing that break advantage in the 4th set he just let it go... that was very sad to see.

So, where does Andy go from here... is it doing some real preparation for the grass season or just letting his career to go down the drain. If I was the one planning his schedule, I would order him to hit the gym in order to get those pounds off. Then get on grass asap (if he is healthy, of course, as there were signs yesterday that he might not be). Damn, he should take wild card to Nottingham challenger. He needs to eat on grass, to sleep on grass and to live on grass now ffs. If he thinks to himself - alright, this was only clay, now I will get on grass and start winning - it is not going to happen. This isn't about the surface, it is about himself, his shape and his tennis. Either solve this or don't bother.

Sorry for the small rant here It's just sad to see his career approaching the end in such fashion. No matter, what happens, will support Andy anyway. And I still have a hope for that one, big run at some tournament. Probably false hopes, but they're still there.
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Nice to see someone in the media standing up for Roddick instead of piling on him.

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At some point, routines just become ruts. And while watching Andy Roddick in the first round of the French Open Sunday, you might have gotten annoyed at him. Irritated. Frustrated. You were in the rut.

It has been years of feeling that way about Roddick, especially at Roland Garros. But the truth is, it's time to get off Andy Roddick's back.

He's not the present anymore. He's the past. And it's not his fault that no other American player has been good enough to move into the present and take the torch of U.S. tennis from him. Roddick, aging, stands there holding it, judged by it.

He lost 6-3, 6-3, 4-6, 6-2 to Nicolas Mahut, the guy known for losing the marathon 2010 Wimbledon match to John Isner, 70-68 in the fifth set. Mahut is 30, and a journeyman. Before Sunday, in his long career, he had won just one match in the main draw of the French Open.

So he now has beaten some guy named Mischa Zverev, and also Andy Roddick. Mahut had also won just six matches at the tour level on clay.

Now, it's seven.

"I've move horrendously out here." Roddick said afterward. "My first step is just so bad on this stuff. I feel like I'm always shuffling or hopping or not stopping or something."

Roddick, who has had hamstring injuries all year, said he is comfortable on grass, where the tour will move after the French. The idea is that he can be himself again by Wimbledon. Meanwhile, Mahut said this "was not the No. 1 Roddick, the No. 1 player in the world that we know."

This is denial. Roddick has not been No. 1 in eight years. He hasn't been in the top five in nearly three years. He won just one major, the US Open, in his entire career. And that was nine years ago.

He’ll turn 30 this summer. His body is falling apart, and his ranking has fallen to No. 33. But he has been the face of U.S. men’s tennis for so long that people hold him to the level of Pete Sampras, Andre Agassi, John McEnroe, Jimmy Connors.

That's OK. It's the burden of the top American. But Roddick never got there. And make what you want of his career — he's been called an underachiever and an overachiever — but that standard no longer applies to him. Roddick is not going to win another major.

He can still play some great matches, and maybe can get to a quarterfinal one more time. But whatever you think of his career, the meat of it was in the past.

The only reason he's still being held to that standard is that no other American man has been good enough to be held to it. Mardy Fish came along and got into the top 10, but that was already the late-point of his career. He is fighting an illness now, and also has peaked. It was a feel-good story when he was doing the things Roddick has spent his career being ripped for.

John Isner? He might be the guy to relieve Roddick. Maybe soon. He’s the best American, and ranked No. 11. But for now, he's seen more as a cult figure for being so tall and for beating Mahut in the longest match in history. It's going to be a while before anyone puts expectations on him. Ryan Harrison is coming up, though a little slowly.

Brian Baker is the great American story in this French Open, back after six years and multiple hip and elbow surgeries. A former top 2 junior in the world, who beat junior Novak Djokovic, Baker disappeared. Suddenly, he has re-emerged. There is no way to be critical of him no matter what.

See, Roddick is old enough that some American should have come along.

That's not to say you shouldn't judge his career. It's up for debate. He spent a decade in the top 10, had a brief run at No. 1 and won a major. He also has had success in Davis Cup, and is going to keep his ranking high enough to get into this summer's London Olympics.

Hall of Fame? Sure.

To me, though, he was an underachiever. He led the game, and then let Roger Federer, then Rafael Nadal, pass him by. That's not the worst of things, letting all-time greats get by you. And some people say Roddick just didn't have the talent to keep up. The truth is, he was too stubborn for too long to make changes. It took him years to bother developing a backhand, or to learn how to come to the net and not to just rely on a booming serve and forehand.

When he finally committed to change, and improved his diet and footwork, too, he nearly beat Federer in the Wimbledon final in 2009. That might have been the most popular Roddick has ever been. It looked like the beginning of something, but Roddick hasn't gotten past a major quarterfinal since.

As he has gotten older, even his forehand has turned to mush.

But that's an argument about his career. He can't be The Guy anymore, though it's not easy breaking free from the rut of seeing him as the American tennis star. It has been so long.

If you want, just hold out hope that he has one more run left in him. But the frustrations about him now shouldn't be nearly as bad as the frustrations from his past.

Don't blame him just because no other American is good enough to be frustrated about.
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