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Old 04-27-2012, 01:31 AM   #16
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It's funny how haters critisize nadal for "overplaying" when Olderer played 97 matches in 2006
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At least during tournaments he has to play.
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Old 04-27-2012, 01:37 AM   #17
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rafa's ranking is hit hard by his better friend novak, who never was a match-up clown like federer was to nadal.
nole isn't going to self destruct again in madrid. djoker or rafa can close his eyes and beat federer but as soon as djoker & nadal reach november wtf, federer will be rested and get lucky ranking points again.
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Why is Barcelona a better tournament for him to play than Madrid?

Madrid is spaced out he gets time off before and after the tournament.

Madris is an AMS 1000 compared to Barcelona which is an AMS 500

The logic doesn't make any sense.
Because Barcelona is a more successful tournament for him, that's why. The place in the calendar may not be ideal but it's like Fed skipping Basel to take a break. Nadal can easily rack up the points in Barcelona. If you're also aware of the 4 500 rule you won't be saying I don't make sense. It's you who doesn't make sense.

Tell me, where can Nadal play 4 ATP 500 during the year and expect a sure-fire win.
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Old 04-27-2012, 02:25 AM   #19
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Because Barcelona is a more successful tournament for him, that's why. The place in the calendar may not be ideal but it's like Fed skipping Basel to take a break. Nadal can easily rack up the points in Barcelona. If you're also aware of the 4 500 rule you won't be saying I don't make sense. It's you who doesn't make sense.

Tell me, where can Nadal play 4 ATP 500 during the year and expect a sure-fire win.
So should Federer quit playing the French since he's only won it once? Should Murray just retire altogether since he can't win a Grand Slam? Madrid is a bigger tournament and if you want to use the whole country argument Madrid throws that out since its also in Spain. Its a no brainer that dropping Barcelona would do him well.
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Because Barcelona is a more successful tournament for him, that's why. The place in the calendar may not be ideal but it's like Fed skipping Basel to take a break. Nadal can easily rack up the points in Barcelona. If you're also aware of the 4 500 rule you won't be saying I don't make sense. It's you who doesn't make sense.

Tell me, where can Nadal play 4 ATP 500 during the year and expect a sure-fire win.
I can almost guarantee you that if Basel was the 4th tournament in a 6 week period where Fed was playing 3 other AMS 1000 events he wouldn't play Basel. Djokovic, albeit due to a death in the family, withdrew from Serbia next week and his parents OWN the tournament.

I get that Nadal relishes the fact that he dominates Barcelona, its a good tournament with a lot of tradition and obviously its in his home nation but you have to look at the big picture. If Nadal was scot free, never got hurt and didn't have lingering knee problems which date back to 5 years ago I would say that its ok to play this tournament. But this very workload cost him a Grand Slam title in 2009 when this huge work load did take its toll and he got hurt.
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Barcelona is Nadal's home event since Mallorca was moved to Valencia. He has spent plenty of time at the club when he had to practice against better player.

It's like Fed he won't skip Basel and Nadal won't do the same to Barcelona unless both are injured. They have attachments to these events. It's a 500 guaranteed he'd win it as well.
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I can almost guarantee you that if Basel was the 4th tournament in a 6 week period where Fed was playing 3 other AMS 1000 events he wouldn't play Basel. Djokovic, albeit due to a death in the family, withdrew from Serbia next week and his parents OWN the tournament.

I get that Nadal relishes the fact that he dominates Barcelona, its a good tournament with a lot of tradition and obviously its in his home nation but you have to look at the big picture. If Nadal was scot free, never got hurt and didn't have lingering knee problems which date back to 5 years ago I would say that its ok to play this tournament. But this very workload cost him a Grand Slam title in 2009 when this huge work load did take its toll and he got hurt.
Barcelona didn't cost Nadal 09.

Rotterdam and Madrid did.
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Barcelona didn't cost Nadal 09.

Rotterdam and Madrid did.
Exactly! That 4-hour SF against Nole was the last straw.

I still don't understand why Nadal does not play Acapulco instead of Rotterdam/Dubai
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Why is Barcelona a better tournament for him to play than Madrid?
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Exactly. Its no coincidence that Federer has lasted so long and has barely missed any matches due to injury. In fact, Federer has only retired ONCE in his entire 13 year career during a match.
When was that?
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Barcelona helps him further gain confidence when on clay heading into Roland Garros is one thing... he likes the tournament a lot is another thing. its a tournament that he considers one of his 'home' locations.... the history, on and on and on...

as another poster mentioned, typically, make that always (when he participates), Nadal can win Barcelona with relative ease and have it not affect his physical shape.

the norm is not 2009 where he didn't even play, the norm is that he can make it through clay court season without too much fear of hurting his body because of both the surface speed and because of the ease at which he can beat opponents...

also yet another great point made here, he has to play SOME 500's
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Barcelona helps him further gain confidence when on clay heading into Roland Garros is one thing... he likes the tournament a lot is another thing. its a tournament that he considers one of his 'home' locations.... the history, on and on and on...

as another poster mentioned, typically, make that always (when he participates), Nadal can win Barcelona with relative ease and have it not affect his physical shape.

the norm is not 2009 where he didn't even play, the norm is that he can make it through clay court season without too much fear of hurting his body because of both the surface speed and because of the ease at which he can beat opponents...

also yet another great point made here, he has to play SOME 500's
He did play this tournament in 2009. He skipped in 2010 when he probably realized that it was too heavy of a workload.
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Never. He has twice withdrawn price to a match in his career, during Doha earlier this year and against James Blake in Bercy a few years ago. No mid-match retirements ever.
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Why does it everytime Rafa is winning a new poster comes and talk like he cares about him and say oh he should lose he should quit he should have never played????? Please stop it! The best for Rafa on clay is to win! Clay is his best surface, he can show off his amazing talent and win , so unless he is really injured I think playing and winning is good for his confidence and for his record. Tennis players rarely plays after 30, So Rafa will have many years in the future to enjoy many other things in life.
He needs to win Roland Garros, that's the main goal, but it is also good when he wins other matches and show he is the boss of clay!
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If Rafa missed Barcelona he would play just 4 clay events per year (excluding Davis Cup). That seems ridiculous for possibly the greater clay courter of all time.
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