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Old 04-23-2012, 05:53 PM   #1
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Default Aside from Djokovic who is Nadal's biggest threat on clay?

Title sums it up really. Is there anyone else beside Djokovic who stands a chance against Nadal on clay and especially at Roland Garros? With Federer being owned by him, Murray a erratic choker who is limited on clay, Soderling injured and Ferrer seemingly being overrated (The dude achives more sucess on hard atm) there doesn't look like anyone else but Djokovic to halt Nadal on the red stuff.
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Old 04-23-2012, 06:41 PM   #2
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Default Re: Aside from Djokovic who is Nadal's biggest threat on clay?

Believe it or not - it is the pansy barelina clown Muger Mugerer.
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Old 04-23-2012, 06:51 PM   #3
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Default Re: Aside from Djokovic who is Nadal's biggest threat on clay?

Weird, but honestly, I can see a bigger threat in Murray than Federer... Still, Djokovic is the only REAL threat, the only one who can stop Rafa from winning his 7th Roland Garros...
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Default Re: Aside from Djokovic who is Nadal's biggest threat on clay?

If we are talking about clay generally - not RG - which is best of 5 where really besides Nole in form i can´t see anyone to take down Nadal than on other events - Madrid, maybe Rome - which is still best of 3 i think Del Potro has shot. Federer - in super form maybe can beat Nadal at Madrid, where their matches are always close. But i can see Del Potro - with better stamina and serve than last time they played on clay- DC in December, i can see Del Potro to beat NAdal. Maybe Berdych in form has chances, but his record with Rafa is so bad. Soderling is injured or out of form he won´t do any damage, but simply those big hitters in form on best of 3 can take down Rafa i think. Last time big hitter took set from Rafa i think was Rome 2010 when Gulbis was in form and eliminated Roger there and almost did the same with Rafa. Simply guy with raw power, big serve and agressive game with less errors than winners always should have chances against Rafa on any surface.

I don´t think guys like Murray or Isner can beat Rafa on clay. Murray is too passive and didn´t have mental edge like Nole, so he won´t beat Rafa and Isner on clay is overrated. Even in Madrid if he is going to play Rafa i say Rafa in straight sets.
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Default Re: Aside from Djokovic who is Nadal's biggest threat on clay?

Fed beat him on clay twice, no? So it's him definitively. He can take him out in Madrid, RG is highly unlikely.
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Default Re: Aside from Djokovic who is Nadal's biggest threat on clay?

Maybe Isner?
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Default Re: Aside from Djokovic who is Nadal's biggest threat on clay?

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Weird, but honestly, I can see a bigger threat in Murray than Federer... Still, Djokovic is the only REAL threat, the only one who can stop Rafa from winning his 7th Roland Garros...
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If Novak beat him in Rome he would become either the favorite or atleast equal to win Roland Garros. Rafa's biggest threat is Novak, then his knees, then Murray, but Andy unfortunately could only beat him if he was not 100%. Nobody is touching him in 5 sets if he is healthy except for the #1, if and when they play.
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Default Re: Aside from Djokovic who is Nadal's biggest threat on clay?

Soderling is the correct answer, but is unfortunately not playing. The only other guy who can beat Nadal who is anywhere near decent form is Federer. Djokovic and Fed are the clear two guys behind Rafa in terms of ability on clay. No-one else can match them at all, and that includes Del Potro.
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Default Re: Aside from Djokovic who is Nadal's biggest threat on clay?

Murray has below zero chances of beating Nadal on clay at all. At any event, let alone the French Open.
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Default Re: Aside from Djokovic who is Nadal's biggest threat on clay?

stats would say Federer, rational thought would say Isner. Murray is a ridiculous pick, he is owned by Nadal on clay. Just because he played one good match against him last year doesn't make him the no. 1 threat. Remember he still lost that match!
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Default Re: Aside from Djokovic who is Nadal's biggest threat on clay?

After Nole, Federer is clearly the 2nd biggest threat.

Followed by Isner.

Delpo, maybe, anyone else has little shot.

But the #1 threat to Nadal is his own body and dumb scheduling.
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Default Re: Aside from Djokovic who is Nadal's biggest threat on clay?

Based on the spanking he got yesterday it's doubtful whether Nole himself poses a threat to the clay god on the dirt

If Nole can be beaten 6-3, 6-1 you'd best believe there is no one who can even come close to challenging Nadal on clay
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Soderling is the correct answer, but is unfortunately not playing.
Soderling is not a threat to healthy Rafa on clay, thats ridiculous. The Swiss Clown also only could beat him if he was not fit. The only threat to Rafa is Novak. Nole also does not need luck or something to fall his way to beat him. He could just staight up do it. He proved that in Rome last year.
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Default Re: Aside from Djokovic who is Nadal's biggest threat on clay?

Soderling was very competitive just last season at the French vs Rafa, and he wasn't even in good form during the clay season. He had chances throughout that match, although the scoreline doesn't reflect it. With the clay courts playing quicker, and harder, Soderling can play it like it's a fast-court match and he has time to set up and step up and smash the ball.
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Default Re: Aside from Djokovic who is Nadal's biggest threat on clay?

Soderling has no chance of beating Nadal in any decent shape on clay, but he's got a better chance than anyone bar Djokovic, in a three set match in particular. If he's on fire, he's tough for Rafa.
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