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The Bulldog · 07-25-2012, 11:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Vinceremo

In an interview with Moggi, he was asked who would be better to replace Matri between Jovetic and Destro (before he signed with Roma) and he said Pazzini

One can hate him or not but the old man knows what he's talking about and what a team really needs. Giampaolo surely didn't have a great season but he's a killer and relatively young too.

Pazzini

The Bulldog · 07-25-2012, 11:47 PM

I think AVB did OK. He could have done a lot better, yes, but he got Chelsea through to the last 16 of the UCL, through in the FA Cup, kept them in touch for the race for UCL football. It was a fair effort, considering he managed a team in transition.

Lugburz · 07-25-2012, 11:51 PM

fair effort, I can give him that. but he was way overrated and still is..

rocketassist · 07-26-2012, 12:08 AM

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Originally Posted by The Bulldog

Rodgers is a fail, yes.

Just look at what he was doing with Reading. They nearly got relegated to League 2. As soon as he left, McDermott came in, and within two seasons, they are in the Premier League.

Now he did a good job at Swansea, but one good job for a short amount of time doesn't make him a good manager.

AVB does have an annoying way of articulating his thoughts. It's very business-like with the use of words like 'project'. He's a great manager though. He did OK at Chelsea and was manager of te year for Europe when he won Porto the EUROPA League.

He tried to impose his style of football on a group of players that weren't suited to it and they struggled but they weren't heading for relegation and not to League 2 either.

He did OK at Watford too.

Jimnik · 07-26-2012, 04:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Lugburz

fair effort, I can give him that. but he was way overrated and still is..

AVB's final report card:

A* for effort
C for merit

**Action Jackson** · 07-26-2012, 07:21 AM

Friendlies are just that.

Corey Feldman · 07-26-2012, 05:50 PM

Spain 0-1 Japan

Vinceremo · 07-26-2012, 11:48 PM

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Originally Posted by The Bulldog

Pazzini

Every player can have a shitty season

Still a quality striker in my eyes, Juve still lacking a goalscorer so I would fancy his arrival if we sell Matri.

The Bulldog · 07-27-2012, 12:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Vinceremo

Every player can have a shitty season

Still a quality striker in my eyes, Juve still lacking a goalscorer so I would fancy his arrival if we sell Matri.

As an Arsenal fan, I'd happily give you RVP now. Works well for both parties.

We get rid of the trash who is disloyal plus €20M, and you get a top-class goalscorer that you so desperately need.

Matri didn't look like he had enough goals in him for me. Pazzini may be better than last year showed, but at a big club, with big ambitions, he failed and they failed. Needs a season to rebuild his confidence IMO, and that's not at Juve.

Vinceremo · 07-27-2012, 01:07 AM

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Originally Posted by The Bulldog

As an Arsenal fan, I'd happily give you RVP now. Works well for both parties.

We get rid of the trash who is disloyal plus €20M, and you get a top-class goalscorer that you so desperately need.

Matri didn't look like he had enough goals in him for me. Pazzini may be better than last year showed, but at a big club, with big ambitions, he failed and they failed. Needs a season to rebuild his confidence IMO, and that's not at Juve.

I would gladly welcome RVP's arrival, a little less € with Giovinco as part of the payment would be awesome though. Too good to be true I'm afraid

Unfortunately, Marotta already said Arsenal's not willing to let him go and judging by the rest of the interview, he's too far away from Juve at the moment and in the near future.

An extra season at a smaller club for Pazzini to rebuild some confidence you mean? Can't see it, he's 27 and at a stage of his career were it's basically now or never at one of the big teams. Maybe he'll bounce back at Inter, seems like he would only come if we sell Matri and, again, can't see him at smaller teams mainly because of economical reasons. Maybe a late loan for him though, you never know.

The Bulldog · 07-27-2012, 01:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Vinceremo

I would gladly welcome RVP's arrival, a little less € with Giovinco as part of the payment would be awesome though. Too good to be true I'm afraid

Unfortunately, Marotta already said Arsenal's not willing to let him go and judging by the rest of the interview, he's too far away from Juve at the moment and in the near future.

An extra season at a smaller club for Pazzini to rebuild some confidence you mean? Can't see it, he's 27 and at a stage of his career were it's basically now or never at one of the big teams. Maybe he'll bounce back at Inter, seems like he would only come if we sell Matri and, again, can't see him at smaller teams mainly because of economical reasons. Maybe a late loan for him though, you never know.

If Pazzini doesn't take a step down for a year, he will continue to be very average. Look at Lucas Barrios and what happened to him. Pazzini had a worse season, and shouldn't make the same mistakes.