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Old 03-01-2015, 08:49 PM   #1
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The Big Three (Combined Achievements) -

Djokovic, Federer and Nadal

1) Won 35 of the last 40 Grand Slams.
2) Won 29 out of 30 Grand Slams from the 2005 French Open up to and including Wimbledon 2012.
3) Represented in 39 of the last 40 Grand Slam finals.
4) Won 10 of the last 11 Australian Open titles. (Represented in 10 finals).
5) Each has reached the final of every Grand Slam at least twice and consecutively at least once.
6) Consecutively held the number 1 ranking since February 2004.
7) Occupied the top 3 places in the rankings for 6 years, 5 consecutively. (2007–2011, 2014).
8) Each has won 3 of the 4 Grand Slams in a season.
9) Each has won at least one Grand Slam 3 or more times consecutively.
10) Each has won at least one Grand Slam 5+ times.
11) Each has won 10+ titles in a season.
12) Each has set the Open Era record for most titles won in three out of the four respective Grand Slams Djokovic with 5 Australian open Titles, Federer with 7 Wimbledon Titles and Nadal with 9 French Open Titles.
13) All won ATP Player of the Year, ITF Men's Singles Champion, Laureus World Sports Award for Sportsman of the Year and ESPY Award for Best Male Tennis player.
14) Each has 80%+ win percentage at all 4 Grand Slams.
15) Won 8 out of 9 Masters 1000 tournaments in 2012.
16) Won 7 out of 9 Masters 1000 tournaments in 2007 and 2014 and were represented in every final both years.
17) Each is placed in the top three in terms of the number of titles won in Masters 1000 Tournaments. Nadal is placed number 1 with 27 Titles, Federer is number 2 with 23 Titles and Djokovic is number 3 with 20 Titles in the open era.
18) Each has defeated the other two in at least one Grand Slam final.
19) Each has reached the final of all 9 Masters 1000 tournaments.
20) Top three prize money leaders of all time.
21) Hold the top 10 spots for prize money earned in a season (unadjusted for inflation).
22) Federer and Djokovic have a win percentage of 83 which is the highest in the open era. Nadal has a win percentage of 93% on clay which is the highest in the open era.

What is next on the achievement list for this trio of all time greats.

1) If Djokovic wins French Open, Nadal, Fed and Nole will have completed career grand slam.

Please add some more, this is unprecedented and people need to stop arguing over weak era bla blaa old man federer bla bla..What we are witnessing is three players in the same era amassing legendary record after record in the open era. If this is not the golden era then what is?
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Old 03-01-2015, 09:23 PM   #2
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Inb4 homogenization of surfaces after the Bot era of the 90s thus making the few players who happened to prefer modern surface speeds dominate and players who would've excelled in previous eras on vastly different surfaces suffer.

Make no doubt the Big 3 are super impressive and legendary players. But the CGS has been devalued. It's quite an achievement for Roger and Rafa, but Agassi's is by far more impressive
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Inb4 homogenization of surfaces after the Bot era of the 90s thus making the few players who happened to prefer modern surface speeds dominate and players who would've excelled in previous eras on vastly different surfaces suffer.

Make no doubt the Big 3 are super impressive and legendary players. But the CGS has been devalued. It's quite an achievement for Roger and Rafa, but Agassi's is by far more impressive
This. And what makes it even more impressive is he was one win away (Wimbledon 99' final) of winning the four in a row (of course we don't know for sure he would've still won AO and USO after had he won that match, but still).
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2004-2007: GOAT era.
2008-2015: Dark Ages of tennis.

But I am confident greatness will rise again.

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sure, if you compile a bunch of stats like that it sort of seems as if the last 10 years has been exceptionally high in terms of level. part of it was in my opinion, like Federer's prime

but the reality is what it really shows is that the depth of tour and overall quality was not there. these 3 players compiled these insane stats BECAUSE the competition was not particularly good. I know some people already on this thread are shrugging off the surfaces being similar, but they ARE for the last 8 years or so, there is no denying that. the reason it is relevant is that in, say, the 1990s players had to deal and cope with specialists everywhere! grass, carpet / indoor, HC, clay- there were fantastic specialists everywhere. Someone like Sampras, while a pretty solid mover and athletic player had practically ZERO chance at Roland Garros because of the staunch difference in speed from HC. he didn't have the time to prepare and switch over. In fact the surfaces were so different that you had clay specialists who would skip grass season because they didn't consider it a worthy and realistic cause

I'm rambling, but I'm just pointing out how different today is in the past. you see plenty of clay court players (Ferrer, Almagro, etc.) acting as threats even on hardcourts because generally speaking they are reasonably paced enough to allow a defensive counter puncher plenty of opportunities. I wouldn't use Nadal for this argument as he DOES have a decent serve and weapons, but it says a lot that the most defensive dirt ballers can upset 'HC specialists' today on HC

the stats are insanely impressive and these top players are definitely some of the best ever, but make no mistake their stats and accomplishments have been inflated by a poor field and competition. The only exception of these top 3 or 4 players being Federer, as I think he would have enjoyed the extremely quick conditions that existed a few decades ago to some degree
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Inb4 homogenization of surfaces after the Bot era of the 90s thus making the few players who happened to prefer modern surface speeds dominate and players who would've excelled in previous eras on vastly different surfaces suffer.

Make no doubt the Big 3 are super impressive and legendary players. But the CGS has been devalued. It's quite an achievement for Roger and Rafa, but Agassi's is by far more impressive
Agassi's is wayyyy more impressive, you're right there
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6) Consecutively held the number 1 ranking since February 2004.


Wow

I wonder who will be the next #1 player in the World after more than a decade of domination by the same 3 players, and Djokovic isn't going anywhere for a couple of years at least.
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Absolutely agree with mountaindewslave here. Noone's denying that these 3 are part of the elite group of best ever, but the competition over the past few years has been particularly weak and the surfaces are becoming more and more indistinguishable from each other which is a lamentable thing.

When surfaces contrasted greatly as they did, you had diversity and an eclectic group of different players vying for titles. Certain styles flourished in certain conditions. Sure, this meant some broken up draws when big players fell early, but it was unpredictable! Today's game I feel lacks that same sense of almost anyone could fall at any time.

Things are starting to change now as Federer gets older and Nadal starts his decline, but a few years ago there was essentially no chance of an upset in the early rounds for these top players. One might as well have given them byes to the semis. There was and still is little to no shock factor in this era. Some fans may value solid consistency over excitement, but I'm not one of them.

In an era where a player such as David Ferrer has reached World Number 3, you know that something is wrong. There are still differences in surfaces but not so much that it affects who's going to win the big tournaments. The sad thing is it is unlikely things will revert, because the executives want to make big money and that means having the same few faces at the latter stages of every tournament.

Our only hope would be for the up and comers such as Kyrgios, Kokkinakis, Coric etc. to show they are surface specialists but the way the game is played now means they're most likely to all want to maximise their game for each and every surface.

By the way, your comment about the prize money sounds impressive, but it has dramatically increased recently so it's really quite irrelevant because there are players today who have earner more than slam winners in the past who had significantly more achievements than them.
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Great stats listed, but that doesn't mean this is a Goat era or the golden era, every era unleashes different set of players who get challenged by their respective opponents, this era is the same as 2000-2010, 1990-1999, 1980-1989 and before.
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2004-2007: GOAT era.
2008-2015: Dark Ages of tennis.

But I am confident greatness will rise again.
BULLSHIT! Hopefully, you are joking and not an ignorant hater. The 04-07 years had only one prime great player. Once Rafa and Novak reached their near peak, Roger no longer totally dominated the slams or #1 rankings. The idea that Roger was past his prime at 28-30 is nonsense, as he proved by beating Novak this week. The golden era, of this age, is 08-13, when all three were playing their best or near best. This year will be very interesting if Rafa is healthy enough to play his best, as Roger and Novak are playing their near best now. Perhaps even their best. Certainly Roger's net game is better than ever and his backhand has never been better.

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The Big Three (Combined Achievements) -

Djokovic, Federer and Nadal

1) Won 35 of the last 40 Grand Slams.
2) Won 29 out of 30 Grand Slams from the 2005 French Open up to and including Wimbledon 2012.
3) Represented in 39 of the last 40 Grand Slam finals.
4) Won 10 of the last 11 Australian Open titles. (Represented in 10 finals).
5) Each has reached the final of every Grand Slam at least twice and consecutively at least once.
6) Consecutively held the number 1 ranking since February 2004.
7) Occupied the top 3 places in the rankings for 6 years, 5 consecutively. (2007–2011, 2014).
8) Each has won 3 of the 4 Grand Slams in a season.
9) Each has won at least one Grand Slam 3 or more times consecutively.
10) Each has won at least one Grand Slam 5+ times.
11) Each has won 10+ titles in a season.
12) Each has set the Open Era record for most titles won in three out of the four respective Grand Slams Djokovic with 5 Australian open Titles, Federer with 7 Wimbledon Titles and Nadal with 9 French Open Titles.
13) All won ATP Player of the Year, ITF Men's Singles Champion, Laureus World Sports Award for Sportsman of the Year and ESPY Award for Best Male Tennis player.
14) Each has 80%+ win percentage at all 4 Grand Slams.
15) Won 8 out of 9 Masters 1000 tournaments in 2012.
16) Won 7 out of 9 Masters 1000 tournaments in 2007 and 2014 and were represented in every final both years.
17) Each is placed in the top three in terms of the number of titles won in Masters 1000 Tournaments. Nadal is placed number 1 with 27 Titles, Federer is number 2 with 23 Titles and Djokovic is number 3 with 20 Titles in the open era.
18) Each has defeated the other two in at least one Grand Slam final.
19) Each has reached the final of all 9 Masters 1000 tournaments.
20) Top three prize money leaders of all time.
21) Hold the top 10 spots for prize money earned in a season (unadjusted for inflation).
22) Federer and Djokovic have a win percentage of 83 which is the highest in the open era. Nadal has a win percentage of 93% on clay which is the highest in the open era.

What is next on the achievement list for this trio of all time greats.

1) If Djokovic wins French Open, Nadal, Fed and Nole will have completed career grand slam.

Please add some more, this is unprecedented and people need to stop arguing over weak era bla blaa old man federer bla bla..What we are witnessing is three players in the same era amassing legendary record after record in the open era. If this is not the golden era then what is?
It's certainly a special era, with unprecedented domination by 2 (2005-2010), and then 3 players (2011-present).

As for master's titles, they are the top 3 since 1990, but not for the entire open era, if you count similar titles pre-1990 (Lendl has 22).

Djokovic winning 10+ slams including a FO would be the icing on the cake.
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Inb4 homogenization of surfaces after the Bot era of the 90s thus making the few players who happened to prefer modern surface speeds dominate and players who would've excelled in previous eras on vastly different surfaces suffer.

Make no doubt the Big 3 are super impressive and legendary players. But the CGS has been devalued. It's quite an achievement for Roger and Rafa, but Agassi's is by far more impressive
^Pretty much sums everything up

While I think Federer may have still done well when the surfaces varied more, there's no doubt that he ALSO benefited from the surface homogenization. People are quick to lump Nadal and Djokovic as the benefactors, but Federer had the fitness/defense to stay at the top as well. That said, his variety would have helped him in the past eras

This is why you can't compare eras. While the stats look like a slam dunk for the post 2005 era, the changes in racket technology and surface consistency surely has inflated the numbers

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