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03-11-2012, 04:07 AM
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Re: Indian Wells R2: Harrison beats Troicki 7-6(5), 6-3
There were some horrendous shot choices during big points, he HAS to do something about that, or he's got no chance at all against Murray...
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03-11-2012, 04:11 AM
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Re: Indian Wells R2: Harrison beats Troicki 7-6(5), 6-3
what’s abundantly clear is that doyle is completely reworking harrison’s game to avoid the 2h bh altogether by running around it and/or defensively slicing. unfortunately, there’s no way he can he reach the highest echelon of the game with such a glaring weakness. eventually the tour will adapt and expose him. in the meantime, his desire, speed and stamina will keep him competitive.
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03-11-2012, 04:12 AM
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Re: Indian Wells R2: Harrison beats Troicki 7-6(5), 6-3
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Count on Viki to mug it out, Harrison in 2.
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03-11-2012, 04:13 AM
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Re: Indian Wells R2: Harrison beats Troicki 7-6(5), 6-3
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Just another self-loathing American, another troll, or do you have something in particular against Harrison? The kid has been touted by all of the US coaches since he was early in his teens, and has bigger wins than this already. If anything, Harrison has been a disappointment thus far, as many expected him to be where Tomic is now based upon his play and obvious talent at 15 years old.
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03-11-2012, 04:18 AM
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Re: Indian Wells R2: Harrison beats Troicki 7-6(5), 6-3
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what’s abundantly clear is that doyle is completely reworking harrison’s game to avoid the 2h bh altogether by running around it and/or defensively slicing. unfortunately, there’s no way he can he reach the highest echelon of the game with such a glaring weakness. eventually the tour will adapt and expose him. in the meantime, his desire, speed and stamina will keep him competitive.
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He had quite a few backhand winners, I'm not sure what you are talking about. Most players with better forehands will run around their backhand when given a chance. See Fed, Nadal, Tsonga etc.
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03-11-2012, 04:20 AM
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Re: Indian Wells R2: Harrison beats Troicki 7-6(5), 6-3
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what’s abundantly clear is that doyle is completely reworking harrison’s game to avoid the 2h bh altogether by running around it and/or defensively slicing. unfortunately, there’s no way he can he reach the highest echelon of the game with such a glaring weakness. eventually the tour will adapt and expose him. in the meantime, his desire, speed and stamina will keep him competitive.
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His two-hander is not bad though. I might even say it is good. It's not as if his forehand is loads better than his backhand. All that being the case, I don't get this tactic, so I hope you're wrong.
BTW, I had no idea Harrison's serve was that big. He was regularly hitting 130. I hope he continues improving. He has got game. He is missing one big weapon though, so he'll have to be awfully well-rounded to be a Grand Slam threat.
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03-11-2012, 04:28 AM
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Re: Indian Wells R2: Harrison beats Troicki 7-6(5), 6-3
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He had quite a few backhand winners, I'm not sure what you are talking about. Most players with better forehands will run around their backhand when given a chance. See Fed, Nadal, Tsonga etc.
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his 2h bh is fundamentally flawed and his fh and serve simply aren't enough to compensate. he'll be decent player, but the prospects of him seriously contending for or winning a major at any point in his career remain at 0%.
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His two-hander is not bad though. I might even say it is good.
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03-11-2012, 04:30 AM
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Just another self-loathing American, another troll, or do you have something in particular against Harrison? The kid has been touted by all of the US coaches since he was early in his teens, and has bigger wins than this already. If anything, Harrison has been a disappointment thus far, as many expected him to be where Tomic is now based upon his play and obvious talent at 15 years old.
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Yeah I didn't get that comment either. It's not like a win over Troicki is a breakthrough for him. The main thing now is that he's starting to show some consistency as far as the level of players he beats, and that consistency will help get his ranking up to a level that is better representative of his true capabilities.
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03-11-2012, 04:30 AM
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Re: Indian Wells R2: Harrison beats Troicki 7-6(5), 6-3
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03-11-2012, 04:31 AM
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Re: Indian Wells R2: Harrison beats Troicki 7-6(5), 6-3
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his 2h bh is fundamentally flawed and his fh and serve simply aren't enough to compensate. he'll be decent player, but the prospects of him seriously contending for or winning a major at any point in his career remain at 0%.

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As they do for Raonic, and most players actually.
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03-11-2012, 04:33 AM
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Re: Indian Wells R2: Harrison beats Troicki 7-6(5), 6-3
[quote=allpro;11804970]his 2h bh is fundamentally flawed and his fh and serve simply aren't enough to compensate. he'll be decent player, but the prospects of him seriously contending for or winning a major at any point in his career remain at 0%.
I disagree. You're right that there is not one particular outstanding facet to his game, but the flip side is that he does everything really well. Better than average forehand, good backhand, better than average volley, serves in the 130's, etc. It will all have to come together for him to be a threat at the majors. Isner made it to #11 with much less talent but with two big weapons. I think Harrison can do a lot more with the spread of talent he has.
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If I lose the first set, the match will be complicate, no?
My favorite Federer and Nadal quotes following their 2008 Wimbledon final:
“But right now, it’s not much of a how do you say? a feel-good thing.”
-Roger Federer
"In the last game, I didn't see nothing. The true, I wasn't see nothing, no?"
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03-11-2012, 04:35 AM
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Re: Indian Wells R2: Harrison beats Troicki 7-6(5), 6-3
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his 2h bh is fundamentally flawed and his fh and serve simply aren't enough to compensate. he'll be decent player, but the prospects of him seriously contending for or winning a major at any point in his career remain at 0%.
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Seems like you are going on the assumption that a young player can't improve 
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03-11-2012, 04:36 AM
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Re: Indian Wells R2: Harrison beats Troicki 7-6(5), 6-3
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Just another self-loathing American, another troll, or do you have something in particular against Harrison? The kid has been touted by all of the US coaches since he was early in his teens, and has bigger wins than this already. If anything, Harrison has been a disappointment thus far, as many expected him to be where Tomic is now based upon his play and obvious talent at 15 years old.
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Oh Ryan I love you so much!!!! He is so gorgeous! I have to say I don't understand why that poster is so down on Ryan. Ryan Harrison, Ryan Sweeting and Donald Young are pretty much our only good young players.
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03-11-2012, 04:39 AM
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Re: Indian Wells R2: Harrison beats Troicki 7-6(5), 6-3
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As they do for Raonic, and most players actually.
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raonic will definitely be a threat at majors with all his weapons, and i predict he'll bring gs glory to canada before it's all said and done. and if tomic ever gets his head screwed on straight, he'll be another force to reckon with at slams in the upcoming years.
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03-11-2012, 04:41 AM
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Re: Indian Wells R2: Harrison beats Troicki 7-6(5), 6-3
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if the issues are addressed, absolutely yes. but if the weaknesses are concealed in pursuit of short-term goals, then no.
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