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Old 02-29-2012, 12:27 PM   #61
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This is funny:
This is what I mentioned before. It looks very real, but it is hard to accept that he got those four supposedly intelligent people to sit there and take part in this discussion.

I still don't know. I guess it falls under the description ''painfully '' funny.
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Old 02-29-2012, 12:33 PM   #62
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yup, i agree. then again, he knows who to deride and when to keep quiet. making fun of an american redneck is easy, taking the piss out of pamela anderson is acceptabe and deriding a small eastern nation noone has heard is for free. with that in mind, i'd be surprised if sacha goes as far as to deride fellow jews in israel.
You'd be surprised. Go see Bruno, then, for a big surprise.

And it is not OK to make fun of Pamela Anderson. She is Canadian and falls outside the boundaries of permissible humour - or she will when I am in charge of the PC police.
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Old 02-29-2012, 12:57 PM   #63
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Never thought I'd see the day!

Abraxas, you and I actually agree on something!
This thread is meaningless if it is just about what each individual finds funny. But do you agree with abraxas that the boundaries of humour should be regulated by some government bureaucrats?

For example, in a quote above abraxas believes it is OK to poke fun at the religious beliefs and intelligence of American rednecks, but appears to be outraged if the humour is directed at the religious beliefs and intelligence of some people in the Middle East.
Similarly it is OK to poke fun at Pamela Anderson, who is rich and harmless (but guilty of being Western), but not OK to poke fun at the likes of Gadaafi and Assad, who are/were rich and murderous (but not Western).
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Right, talk of "measures should be taken" leaves me extremely uneasy.

Among other things, I think that Cohen is unfunny and an asshole. However, the response to this should not be any kind of state-sponsored censorship, obviously. It should simply be not shilling out $10 to go see his "movies," as Johnny Capo indicated above.

In the original post to which I was responding, BH, abraxas included nothing about "regulation." I emphatically do not agree with him there. But I do not think that it is otherwise fair to call the thread "meaningless." I enjoy seeing some of today's undeserving "cultural heroes" receive a bit of flak.
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Old 02-29-2012, 01:08 PM   #65
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But I do not think that it is otherwise fair to call the thread "meaningless." I enjoy seeing some of today's undeserving "cultural heroes" receive a bit of flak.
OK, but you are choosing who is undeserving. Can I choose Jesus?

Just watched the Dictator on youtube on the red carpet at the Oscars. Jaw-dropping humour once more. How does he get away with it? Or were Seacrest and the Oscar organizers in on the fun?
His line, "Now you can say you are wearing Kim Jong-Il'' was the funniest line of the night.
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This is what I mentioned before. It looks very real, but it is hard to accept that he got those four supposedly intelligent people to sit there and take part in this discussion.

I still don't know. I guess it falls under the description ''painfully '' funny.
Oh my, Kent Hovind... the imprisoned creationist who got his "doctor"'s degree from this "University":



I don't know any of the others, but if they're anything like Hovind then they're all but intelligent. Probably beginning with the futurologist who thinks the term Homo Sapiens is Greek.
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OK, but you are choosing who is undeserving. Can I choose Jesus?
Obviously you can. Don't people do that all the time? Is irreverence to Jesus/Christianity something that you find rare or refreshing among the contemporary youth?

I mean, it's not like there's a "Piss Cohen," is there?

(and on a side note, c'mon with this already, BH. My labeling Cohen as an unfunny douche struck you as a relevant opportunity to bring "Christianity" into this?)
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Borat wasn't about 'cracking racist jokes'. Sacha Baron Cohen portrayed a person who was obviously a backward idiot. What was shocking was people's reactions, or lack thereof, when he did say racist things, such as when the people in the bar sang along to "throw the jew down the well".

That's where the racism came from, and that's what should have been offensive. Not Sacha Baron Cohen's silly character, but that people who come from a civilized country and clearly aren't in character, or clearly aren't backwards idiots could behave in such a racially insensitive way. That's what the movie was trying to do, to expose the latent racism that still exists in America. Even in Bruno, although the character was really over the top, the real homophobia came from people's reactions to Bruno, not Bruno himself.

I'm sorry if you didn't get that.
^ This man speaks the truth!

The joke is not in Borat saying "when I bought my wife she was strong with the plough", the joke is in people not even blinking an eyelid when he says it.

The joke is not Borat making a ludicrous speech about the war on terror, it is the enthusiastic response he gets.

Baron Cohen has relly developed a unique way of making comedy. I can understand it's not for everyone. I dare say that most people who like Borat don't understand what makes it brilliant.
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The joke is not Borat making a ludicrous speech about the war on terror, it is the enthusiastic response he gets.
Even more outrageous when what he actually said at the rodeo was ''your war of terror''
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I mean, it's not like there's a "Piss Cohen," is there?
I don't know. But if there was, it would probably go unnoticed anyway. Which is why there probably isn't.

But more interesting to me is that there is no Piss Mohammed.
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I can't believe Abraxas' moaning in here Too funny
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As most have said who takes Sacha Baron Cohen seriously. Simon Baron Cohen you can take seriously
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We have often talked of the PC police in jest and here you are seriously proposing just such an entity.
Admit it, you are just another fantasy socialist who dreams that in the perfect society you will be one of the few who are brilliant enough to decide for the others. But when everyone has the same fantasies, it doesn't work.

In truth, the things you are saying in this thread could be straight from the mouth of a Sacha Cohen movie character. We will never know whether it is a real person speaking or an elaborate put-on.
what exactly are you disagreeing with? the message was clear "comedy, as any form of expression, can be quite powerful and measures should be taken to see that it doesn't get out of certain bouderies."


anyone with a tiny bit of respect for different peoples would agree with that statement. even most governments from the west and the east actually agree with that statement.
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This thread is meaningless if it is just about what each individual finds funny. But do you agree with abraxas that the boundaries of humour should be regulated by some government bureaucrats?
It is EVIDENT that any sane gvt should do that.

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For example, in a quote above abraxas believes it is OK to poke fun at the religious beliefs and intelligence of American rednecks, but appears to be outraged if the humour is directed at the religious beliefs and intelligence of some people in the Middle East.
Similarly it is OK to poke fun at Pamela Anderson, who is rich and harmless (but guilty of being Western), but not OK to poke fun at the likes of Gadaafi and Assad, who are/were rich and murderous (but not Western).
dear, you still have a penchant for distorting words, don't you?
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Baron Cohen has relly developed a unique way of making comedy. I can understand it's not for everyone. I dare say that most people who like Borat don't understand what makes it brilliant.
or maybe it's because he's just not funny?
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