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Old 02-24-2012, 07:49 AM   #16
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Default Re: Can Roger do what Agassi did in his 30s?

I dont think so .Agassi had a lot less miles on his body when he reached 30
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Old 02-24-2012, 07:58 AM   #17
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Default Re: Can Roger do what Agassi did in his 30s?

He might but he won't.This year he'll retire.

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Old 02-24-2012, 08:05 AM   #18
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Default Re: Can Roger do what Agassi did in his 30s?

After turning 30 (or very nearly thirty), Agassi made 5 slam final of which he won 3. However, he beat Arnaud Clement, Rainer Schuttler in two of those 3 that he won. Federer will not have that fortune. I am positive that anyone he is likely to meet in the final of a slam, even if it is not Nadal or Djokovic will be a lot tougher.

And anyway, Andre spent the best part of his 20s lavishing, Federer on the other hand has achieved more than he could have dreamt of. While I am sure he would still love to win n be competitive, does he have the same hunger? I doubt it, he just cant be that motivated anymore. And anyway, too many miles on Roger's body by now.
Agassi had a love hate relationship with tennis from what we read in his autobio, Federer on the other hand appears to have genuine love for the tour and the game, thats why he keeps playing. It has less to do with actually winning though I doubt he will stick around if he becomes a no-factor.

All said, I still think Federer has a couple of slam wins left in him. It may be partly wishful thinking as a fan too, but as long as he keeps making finals and semis, he is still with a shout. He has a fair chance against both Murray and Djokovic, Nadal is a different story though.
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Default Re: Can Roger do what Agassi did in his 30s?

We have seen some flashes of old good Fed in Rotterdam, so If Roger can show this kind of tennis in longer periods of the season he's obviously capable of winning on fast, low-bounce surfaces.
Unfortunately for him, none of the current slams fulfill those requirements so at this point I can't picture Federer winning majors unless Nadal gets eliminated before SF/F and Roger shows up in the JesusFed Mode against Djokovic.
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We have seen some flashes of old good Fed in Rotterdam, so If Roger can show this kind of tennis in longer periods of the season he's obviously capable of winning on fast, low-bounce surfaces.
Unfortunately for him, none of the current slams fulfill those requirements so at this point I can't picture Federer winning majors unless Nadal gets eliminated before SF/F and Roger shows up in the JesusFed Mode against Djokovic.
Let's hang fire on the U.S.O. & see whether they repeat their painting "mistake". It would be absolutely disgraceful if they did.
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Old 02-24-2012, 11:29 AM   #21
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Default Re: Can Roger do what Agassi did in his 30s?

according to who you ask

either 1999-2003 is the worst transitional era in history

or the strongest era in history- i go with the latter- true all court tennis everywhere

guga was 24 in 1999, won 2 RGs in the era- played 3 straight rome finals
won the trinity of rome, hamburg and MC

and won cincy- what an athlete

agassi had his best results in this era

sampras himself- made 5 slam finals- even though he wasn't as good as his peak- he was still very good- (sort of like federer post 2008)

hewitt was like rafa except he was worse on clay and better on hard courts

safin played the occasional match where he destroyed legends- us open final vs sampras- vs a very good sampras safin just destroyed him

federer played his most asthetically pleasing all court game- starting with almost complete S&V style early on- to a more all court game in the early 2000s- before abandoning the volley (not completley but enough that it actually became weaker in later years) late 2003

nalbandian, haas were 2 of the most talented guys you will ever watch in this period- its easy to call them mugs now- but if you watch the era its hard to imagine they wouldn't dominate the era- i still can't believe federer fought his way to the top ahead of these 2 who had games that were easily comparable with roger's

ferrero's clay game was insane

it was a beautiful time-

federer finding an extra gear in 2004 sort of ruined it all
nadal entering tennis in 2005 killed tenis for a generation (suddenly tennis talent didnt matter as much as being a retreiver)

tennis is shit now
just shit
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Old 02-24-2012, 12:31 PM   #22
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Default Re: Can Roger do what Agassi did in his 30s?

Me thinks you're bitter,very bitter.Tennis has never been better.There is a fake goat,than a clay warrior and a Fedal kila and goat in the making.
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Default Re: Can Roger do what Agassi did in his 30s?

1999-2005 was a great period in tennis
Variety,talent, different characters,diverse surfaces.
Today it's just stamina based tennis on 1 surface
For the whole year.
I think 90s Wimby & today's era is the most boring in tennis history.
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Tennis has never been better.
In other words: you don't like tennis.


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There is a fake goat,than a clay warrior and a Fedal kila and goat in the making.
I count 3 major fails in that sentence alone. You are gifted.
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Old 02-24-2012, 10:32 PM   #25
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1999-2005 was a great period in tennis
Variety, talent, different characters, diverse surfaces.
I liked it a lot, but maybe that is just the Agassi fan talking.
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Default Re: Can Roger do what Agassi did in his 30s?

Not only do people need to stop comparing Fed to Aggassi, they need to take into account the swamp surfaces of today and the fact that Fed has never stopped being competitive in the last 10+ years.
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