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Old 08-11-2012, 05:02 PM   #1366
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Hopefully, Djokovic will play the final and exhaust himself before the USO.
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Old 08-11-2012, 07:39 PM   #1367
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If roger remains injury from till 35-36. After that point he should only play the 4 slams, WTF, basel, and maybe halle before wimbledon and perhaps cinci before the us open.

8-10 events, lot of down time between to recover and peak for the slams. Then he might even just forget the whole clay season and french open but with, nole, and murray likely gone in 5 years he may still have his chances. Agassi was in the us open finals pushing peakerer. No reason fed if he has the desire, bigger serve and quicker points, cannot continue to be effective at 35... his biggest compeition murray, nole will be nearly 30 at that point as well and their style will cause injuries and slow them down further.

Fed has adapted now after with annacone to this more offensive style game and should only get more used to it here on out. Fed has all of his 31, 32, and 33 years to be right there at slams. murray and nadal are injured already and with chronic problmes... if nadal skips us open which is likely at this point and murray and nole play super saturday second.... fed will have his chances in the us open final against either...

He's arguably playing better right now than he was at the us open last year... other than a terrible french open fed has been solid on hard courts this year... look at australia, indian wells, dubai... if no nadal... fed may have won aussie open...

Regardless fed is not losing number 1 or 2.. with nadal injured anytime soon...nadal won't be at the us open... and most likely murray will draw fed at 2013 aussie open... fed will have chances big time in the next 3-4 slams since he only has to beat murray-nole winner... and at worst murray then nole..

If fed grabs us open.. for sure he gets 20
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If roger remains injury from till 35-36. After that point he should only play the 4 slams, WTF, basel, and maybe halle before wimbledon and perhaps cinci before the us open.

8-10 events, lot of down time between to recover and peak for the slams. Then he might even just forget the whole clay season and french open but with, nole, and murray likely gone in 5 years he may still have his chances. Agassi was in the us open finals pushing peakerer. No reason fed if he has the desire, bigger serve and quicker points, cannot continue to be effective at 35... his biggest compeition murray, nole will be nearly 30 at that point as well and their style will cause injuries and slow them down further.

Fed has adapted now after with annacone to this more offensive style game and should only get more used to it here on out. Fed has all of his 31, 32, and 33 years to be right there at slams. murray and nadal are injured already and with chronic problmes... if nadal skips us open which is likely at this point and murray and nole play super saturday second.... fed will have his chances in the us open final against either...

He's arguably playing better right now than he was at the us open last year... other than a terrible french open fed has been solid on hard courts this year... look at australia, indian wells, dubai... if no nadal... fed may have won aussie open...

Regardless fed is not losing number 1 or 2.. with nadal injured anytime soon...nadal won't be at the us open... and most likely murray will draw fed at 2013 aussie open... fed will have chances big time in the next 3-4 slams since he only has to beat murray-nole winner... and at worst murray then nole..

If fed grabs us open.. for sure he gets 20
I find it hard to believe there won't be some younger players in the top five by this stage of Federer's career, should he last that long. So regardless of Murray, Nadal and Djokovic having declined, there will be others dominating slams.
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Hopefully, Fed will never again win a master or a slam.
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I don't think Roger will mug up his schedule THAT much once the year is over even if he achieves the unthinkable and gets the YE #1. He has already signed up to defend his Rotterdam title plus one of his best events on tour are Masters events like Madrid and Cincy, so I'm sure he'll still play them and will just be more reasonable by prioritising his health.

I hope he does add a few more 250s such as Estoril once in a while for the occasional title and because people love to see him in these less prestigious events. Moreover, from 2015 with the extended grass court season, he might finally have a chance to win a grass title in the UK outside of SW19.

Djokovic is vulturing Toronto quite nicely, so I hope he is at least tired for the USO if he does well at Cincy. However, Cincy is a fast court and if he didn't have any gruelling matches in Toronto where the surfaces is slower and more physical, he won't be as tired after Cincy. Still, 3 weeks in succession plus another 2 for a slam should be tough. I hope Roger has enough in him to make a final dash for #1 if he is still behind after the Open. But if he wins the USO, I'd hardly care about #1.


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If you feel that way you should probably avoid watching Cincy and the USO this year.
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Fed since last USO final fluke loss - 39-2 with all two losses coming on superfast mud hardcourts in a night session. Guess what's the speed in Cincy .
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Olderer has no chance to win Cinci. Nole will take out the trash like he usually does.
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Olderer has no chance to win Cinci. Nole will take out the trash like he usually does.
I had no idea he was so domesticated...

Incidentally, Djokovic has a grand total of 0 Cincinnati Open titles.
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I had no idea he was so domesticated...

Incidentally, Djokovic has a grand total of 0 Cincinnati Open titles.
Mugray slipped some gluten based food into Nole's dinner the night before the match last year
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Could be. Could be...

Well in any case history would suggest Federer is more likely to win this event than Djokovic, irrespective of their current ability on hard courts.

Having said that, recent history would also suggest Djokovic is more likely to "take out the trash", as you put it, in the US Open. So my money is not on Federer getting any closer to 20 slams in 2012, at least.
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