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Old 09-25-2012, 09:07 AM   #1546
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Default Re: Federer : The Mother Of All Quests : 20 Slams And 100 Titles.

federer won't beat jmac in doubles, much less Emerson

unless he hires on of the Brian Bros.
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Old 09-25-2012, 09:14 AM   #1547
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Default Re: Federer : The Mother Of All Quests : 20 Slams And 100 Titles.

old legs doesn't have the volleys for doubles anymore, the serve yes

he's excellent compared to the current top 10, but that isn't hard

anyway, i believe he has already said that he isn't interested in doubles, and that, while he supports the idea of it, he isn't interested in the seniors tour either

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Noserer should bring Coketina Hingis out of retirement and play mixed, they'd sweep CYGS for sure. Noserer will finally add a second RG to his collection as well - his first one wouldn't seem like such a fluke anymore
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I'll need to buy a newer model hover or even hire a cleaning company to sweep all the crap that's been written over the last few pages of this visionary thread. I can't wait to bump it again in a few months .
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If some unknown talent came out of some random tiny country (no chance to win DC) and won 20 slams, no one would give a single shit if that player didn't have DC. The fact is, success in DC is largely determined by what country you come from or play for in the first place, which most players haven't had any control over.
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A fluke like Rafa's AO and USO? Because Federer has multiple finals at the FO to back up his win. What about Rafa at the USO? Is he a fixture in the finals there? Are you trying to insult Federer but inadvertently ending up shitting over Nadal in the process?
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Old 09-25-2012, 11:25 AM   #1551
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Noserer should bring Coketina Hingis out of retirement and play mixed, they'd sweep CYGS for sure. Noserer will finally add a second RG to his collection as well - his first one wouldn't seem like such a fluke anymore
yes, what a fluke, after being in the final for 4 years..
How many times has Nadull reached USO final again? Its good that he fluked a title there, after all he "doesnt like" the hard courts because they are oh so unfair...
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So, you're completely sure that he's gonna win at least 9 more titles to get to 85?
99.99%. Only way he won't is because of a career ending injury (0.01%).
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FFS, stop feeding freaking TopspinNadullasskisser, people. He's a troll. Leave him to write his BS but do not respond, so we don't ruin the thread. Go and own him in the Dull thread. Thanks.
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Yes, he could feasibly do both. Don't know if he will, but he can for sure. Federer can be a top 10 player when he's 40 easily bar any unforeseen injuries, he will remain a title-winning thread for as long as he wants/is motivated.
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Old 09-25-2012, 12:41 PM   #1555
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This delusional thread still going on
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Old 09-25-2012, 01:06 PM   #1556
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I still think 100 is too far .I will wait for him to do it before I believe it

I hope he adds 3 more titles this year to get to 79
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Old 09-25-2012, 01:47 PM   #1557
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There won't be many titles available for Roger to win because murray is now invincible. This means Roger only has a chance in tournaments where murray doesn't play which are few.
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Old 09-25-2012, 04:32 PM   #1558
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Open Era records

Most singles titles won after turning age 30: Rod Laver - 40 titles (including 1969 Grand Slam). Last title at age 36 in Orlando 1975.

Oldest player to win a singles title: Richard Alonso "Pancho" Gonzales - (43 years 273 days Des Moines - 1972)


Oldest No.1 player: Andre Agassi (33 years, 4 months in 2003)

Oldest player to end a year in the Top 10: Richard Alonso "Pancho" Gonzales (41+ years in 1969)

Oldest players to win Australian Open:
1. Ken Rosewall - 1972 (37y 2m 1d)
2. Ken Rosewall - 1971 (36y 2m 12d)
3. Andre Agassi - 2003 (32y 8m 28d)


Oldest players to win Roland Garros:
1. Andres Gimeno - 1972 (34y 10m 1d)
2. Ken Rosewall - 1968 (33y 7m 7d)
3. Rod Laver - 1969 (30y 9m 30d)


Oldest players to win Wimbledon:
1. Arthur Ashe - 1975 (31y 11m 25d)
2. Roger Federer - 2012 (30y 11m 0d)*
3. Rod Laver - 1969 (30y 10m 26d)


Oldest players to win US Open:
1. Ken Rosewall - 1970 (35y 10m 11d)
2. Rod Laver - 1969 (31y 1m 0d)
3. Pete Sampras - 2002 (31y 0m 27d)


Most singles titles:
1. Jimmy Connors - 109
2. Ivan Lendl - 94
3. John McEnroe - 77
4. Roger Federer - 76*


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In the video elsewhere in this thread where Roger Federer mentions thoughts of winning 100 titles, he has also stated that he likes longevity and accomplishments associated with it, pointing to Jimmy Connors 20 years in the game as an example. His achievement this year of winning Wimbledon and returning to #1 in the world at age 30-31 with his younger competition in their prime is remarkable. We have discussed elsewhere in this thread that Federer has many of the qualities that support longevity in tennis.

If he keeps somewhere near his current level of play (top 4), then he definitely can put himself in a position to win more majors as well as more titles. That's all that can reasonably be expected. Whether he can or will win more majors will be dependent on how well and for how long he can keep somewhere near this level, how well his main competition continues to perform, and some amount of luck. Given his current level and competition, it would surprise me more if he never wins another major than if he were to win 1-3 more, but who knows?

Starting Jan 1, 2013, he is free to play in whichever tournaments he wishes as he will have fulfilled all 3 requirements to be exempt from the ATP tour Masters 1000 commitment. He can skip tourneys that don't favor him and opt to play in others that do, even if they may be "lesser" tournaments. He has a family and health considerations, but the family seems to enjoy the traveling and tennis as much as he does. He might not play 15 more years , but as long as he stays relatively healthy and his family needs are no obstacle, another 5-10 years on the tour wouldn't shock me.

In the end, we can speculate one way or another, try to estimate how many titles/year he can win, etc., but who knows what will happen? In 2012, I think most people have been surprised that he has won 6 titles including 3 masters 1000s and Wimbledon so far, with the indoor season still to go. At the end of 2012, let's see where he is and how we did with our predictions very early in this thread.

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that video was of Federer after Wimbledon in swiss on a waterside setting IIRC.
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Old 09-25-2012, 04:51 PM   #1560
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Thanks for the stats, Masterclass.

By the way, Connors holds the record for most weeks in top-5 in a row since the creation of the ATP rankings : 659 weeks, that is 12 years and 7 months from the 24th of september 1973 to the 12th of may 1986, that is he went out of the top-5 only at 33 years and 8 months old ( http://www.tennis28.com/rankings/con..._top5etal.html )

Fed will reach 10 years in a row on the 17th of february 2013.

33 years and 8 months years old for Fed would be in april 2015.

659 weeks would be reached on the 5th of october 2015.

I think every Fedfan would be extremely happy if Fed stayed in the top-5 for that long, which would mean he would still be in the top-competition

If Connors did it, one can hope Fed can do it as well, although it's a huge goal.

More reasonably, Lendl's 588 weeks consecutive would be reached on the 26th of may 2014.

I have to say that's the best I wish for him, more than any other goal like winning slams or else that number of titles record which means hardly anything for me.
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