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Old 06-29-2015, 08:22 PM   #1
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Ok, some people are losing believe in the new generation and just wanted to break down the ranking evolution of these youngsters vs the likes of Nadal, DJokovic, Murray and Del Potro (the 4 best of the 86-88 generation) the same age and also latebloomer Federer as a bonus:

Kyrgios (most akin to Federer) is 20 yrs 2 months and ranked nr29, at the same age this was the ranking of the players mentioned:

Nadal nr2
DJokovic nr3
Federer nr12
Murray nr14
Del Potro nr9

Coric 18 years and 7 months, ranked nr40 and often compared to Djokovic:

Nadal nr47 (keep in mind, had injury in 2014)
Djokovic nr 80
Federer nr 50
Murray nr 64
Del Potro nr 61

Zverev 18 yrs 2 months, ranked 74

Nadal nr71
Djokovic nr 96
Federer nr 93
Murray nr 164
Del Potro nr 93

Kokkanis 19 yrs 2 months ranked 71

Nadal nr2
Djokovic nr35
Federer nr31
Murray nr35
Del Potro nr 44


So, while time is ticking fast for Kyrgios and to a lesser extent Kokkanis to really proof themselves, people are beeing way too harsh against the very young players Coric and Zverev. At 18 no one expects big things, yet Coric has defeated Nadal and Murray in convincing fashion.

This generation still got alot of potential, Kyrgios could be a really late bloomer aswell. I think in 2-3 years one of these 4 kids might very well dominate the tour.
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Ranking isn't a good indicator these days. The tour has no depth.
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It`s not about ranking first of all. Youngsters nowadays either have no all court game or stamina. Sometimes both. Add to this lack of work ethicks and belief against current leaders... Kyrgios is hyped like next god now, but even him had not that impressive result in comparison to best players of their generations in past. Coric is 50% of what Djokovic was in 2006.
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It`s not about ranking first of all. Youngsters nowadays either have no all court game or stamina. Sometimes both. Add to this lack of work ethicks and belief against current leaders... Kyrgios is hyped like next god now, but even him had not that impressive result in comparison to best players of their generations in past. Coric is 50% of what Djokovic was in 2006.
Djokovic was easily outplayed by Paul Goldstein in rd1 of AO when he was 18 yrs and 7 months like Coric.
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2 things I would like to comment from above comments.

#1 Young Djokovic's forehand and attacking game is overrated.

#2 Coric and Zverev are doing great, but Zverev really needs to be in good form now because he's defending a lot of points in the next few weeks.
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It's all PR... Someone started talking about Coric and now you guys believe he's so wonderful kid, his highest ranking - 84, Dzumhur highest ranking - 87. The same actually. Difference? Coric made it via wildcards - to Basel for example, Dzumhur had to reach it by hard work, on qualies, challengers.

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Ok, some people are losing believe in the new generation and just wanted to break down the ranking evolution of these youngsters vs the likes of Nadal, DJokovic, Murray and Del Potro (the 4 best of the 86-88 generation) the same age and also latebloomer Federer as a bonus:

Kyrgios (most akin to Federer) is 20 yrs 2 months and ranked nr29, at the same age this was the ranking of the players mentioned:

Nadal nr2
DJokovic nr3
Federer nr12
Murray nr14
Del Potro nr9

Coric 18 years and 7 months, ranked nr40 and often compared to Djokovic:

Nadal nr47 (keep in mind, had injury in 2014)
Djokovic nr 80
Federer nr 50
Murray nr 64
Del Potro nr 61

Zverev 18 yrs 2 months, ranked 74

Nadal nr71
Djokovic nr 96
Federer nr 93
Murray nr 164
Del Potro nr 93

Kokkanis 19 yrs 2 months ranked 71

Nadal nr2
Djokovic nr35
Federer nr31
Murray nr35
Del Potro nr 44


So, while time is ticking fast for Kyrgios and to a lesser extent Kokkanis to really proof themselves, people are beeing way too harsh against the very young players Coric and Zverev. At 18 no one expects big things, yet Coric has defeated Nadal and Murray in convincing fashion.

This generation still got alot of potential, Kyrgios could be a really late bloomer aswell. I think in 2-3 years one of these 4 kids might very well dominate the tour.


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Who is Kokkanis?
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Btw, you should add Rublev here. He might not have pushed through yet, but he has the highest potential peak of all the agressive players born 95+
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It's all PR... Someone started talking about Coric and now you guys believe he's so wonderful kid, his highest ranking - 84, Dzumhur highest ranking - 87. The same actually. Difference? Coric made it via wildcards - to Basel for example, Dzumhur had to reach it by hard work, on qualies, challengers.

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2 things I would like to comment from above comments.

#1 Young Djokovic's forehand and attacking game is overrated.
No, it's not. Like Coric's FH is underrated, you mean?

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Zverev has a serious chance to reach R4 at Wimbledon; if he does it, it will have happened at a younger age (marginally) than Federer and Nadal made their first R16 appearance.
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No, it's not. Like Coric's FH is underrated, you mean?

I don't want to dicuss Djokovic with you. You're the one that says Djokovic is an agressive shotmaker.
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It's all PR... Someone started talking about Coric and now you guys believe he's so wonderful kid, his highest ranking - 84, Dzumhur highest ranking - 87. The same actually. Difference? Coric made it via wildcards - to Basel for example, Dzumhur had to reach it by hard work, on qualies, challengers.

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I don't want to dicuss Djokovic with you. You're the one that says Djokovic is an agressive shotmaker.
Yes, you are really confused. That is namely chico.

Let's get it clear, I readily acknowledge that Novak has not played his best in all of his big matches since 2012, that he tried to push often which he should have avoided.
Still no need to discredit his early resumé.
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andrey rublev 17 yrs 8 months, rnked 207:

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Nadal 40
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Zverev has a serious chance to reach R4 at Wimbledon; if he does it, it will have happened at a younger age (marginally) than Federer and Nadal made their first R16 appearance.
At this point I rate Zverev's and Kyrgios' chances the highest for a really successful career at the top of the game.
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