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View Poll Results: Who takes claim on being the current 5th best ATP player?

Berdych 34 47.22%
Del Potro 38 52.78%
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Old 02-17-2012, 11:37 PM   #31
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Thomas, you should beat the mug.
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Old 02-18-2012, 12:27 AM   #32
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It's an interesting poll question. I think JMDP is the 5th best ATP player right now, in terms of pure ball-striking and his pedigree. But as for who's going to win the SF? Berdych has a 12-1 record on the year after losing a close match to Nadal in Australia and he's looking dangerous.

JMDP has a 3-7 record against Nadal, a 1-4 record against Djokovic and a 2-8 record against Federer.
Berdych as a 2-7 record against Nadal, a 1-8 record against Djokovic and a 4-10 record against Federer.

If Berdych can move Juan around and if he can dictate points, he will win the match. However, if he plays into Juan's strengths and gives him rhythm, he's completely screwed. Best chance he has is to get Juan off-balance.

I really really really want to see this match. It should be epic.

Just found video of an old match. It gets really interesting midway through the second set when Del Potro realizes that he needs to play more aggressively to stay with Berdych. Based on this video from the five minute mark onwards, JMDP has more touch and more creative shot selection than Berdych; he's lobbing, he's volleying, he's doing all kinds of stuff that won't giver Berdych rhythm from the baseline.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VXt2wDMWyZk
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The mental aspect will decide the outcome i think.
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DelPo.
Haven't seen him this tournament but he seems motivated, he needs this one.
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Still a couple of good seats for what might be the best match of the tournament - 2 pm (GMT + 1) start time. Tomorrow's final is sold out.

This match is too close to call. Close to medium-fast conditions probably favor Mr. Berdych slightly, in that he should be able to play his successful attacking game. But if either player is slightly off for whatever reason, it will tip the match to the other. Should be a cracker - 2 pm (GMT + 1) start time.

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Tomas wins, better indoor player than the Pony.
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personally i think tsonga is the deserving no.5 despite the horrendous oz showing. these two are fighting for no.6 here and i'll give the slight edge to berdych at the moment.

damn that right wrist. delpo would have been towering over them all by now.
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Hope Berdych wins as he'll have a better chance against Roger in the final & I'd rather not see Roger win a 500 having played three 30 yr olds to get to the final. Dubai will give us a better idea as to how Tsonga, Berdych & Del Po line up against each other - think Berdych will come out top this year overall though it's hard to call as Del Po's peak on hardcourts is higher but Berdych & Tsonga have been more impressive & consistent in the last 6 months...
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Hope Berdych wins as he'll have a better chance against Roger in the final & I'd rather not see Roger win a 500 having played three 30 yr olds to get to the final. Dubai will give us a better idea as to how Tsonga, Berdych & Del Po line up against each other - think Berdych will come out top this year overall though it's hard to call as Del Po's peak on hardcourts is higher but Berdych & Tsonga have been more impressive & consistent in the last 6 months...
That's the state of mens tennis these days. Average age of the top 100 is now almost 28 years.
It's telling when the declining 30 somethings outplay the best of the 19-23 age group.
Facing someone 30 years or older does not automatically mean one has an easier match.

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Tomas in two tight sets.
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I still think Berdych in 2. So far, whenever delPo meets the first decent player in any draw of a tourney, he gets trashed.
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That's the state of mens tennis these days. Average age of the top 100 is now almost 28 years.
Are the days of the prodigies over for good? My first tennis memory is a 17 yr old Becker winning Wimby. Goddess Stefi and '88! I was always glued to my tv every time Hingis played. It's been 7 years since we last had a teen win anything worth mentioning. I've got nothing against the, well, more experienced guys finally getting some success. But I sure miss the old days when you started investing in someone's career from the beginning, watching them grow up on the courts, hoping you were in for a treat for many years to come.

But I digress. Today's Berdych's day me thinks.
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Are the days of the prodigies over for good? My first tennis memory is a 17 yr old Becker winning Wimby. Goddess Stefi and '88! I was always glued to my tv every time Hingis played. It's been 7 years since we last had a teen win anything worth mentioning. .
I do think those days might have gone. The 16/17 year olds look like kids next to the 24 yr old tour players. It's always funny seeing photos of Rafa next to the juniors he's practicing with - some of whom are ranked in the top 10 juniors and these 16, 17 year olds just look tiny physically next to him. Ok not everyone can be like Rafa beating RG champions at 16 and World no. 1s at 18 but why is it that all young players are just not fit enough at that age? Nadal wasn't the only one to have good results while young - Gasquet did, Djokovic did (19/20) etc.

Maybe these kids should work on fitness and conditioning more early on? Tomic looks much more built this year and it'll help him probably. He's the only "youngster" to have done well and even that translates to no titles as yet. Some of the other "young guns" like Dolgo etc. are 23, 24 - hardly young! Hope someone turns up soon as the tour with Raonic, Tomic and Dimitrov may bore me to tears....

Berdych, Gasquet, Nadal, Baghdatis, Murray etc. all played juniors/ITF events around the same time, some were at Petit AS in the same year - and all have achieved great things or become solid tour players. Somehow find it hard to see the current bunch we see having anywhere near that kind of consistency... GO TOMAS!
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